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i truly now can say that ghost exist

Well GQ if you were paying attention then you would know what i was talking about if anything you're making assumptions because I said the knife was on top of three boxes about two feet away are you listening THREEEEE BOXESSS high so what kind of energy or laws of physics could've made that happen for the hunderth time I explained all of this a few pages back and thanks for worrying about my punctuation.
Back step I like your story very freaky I believe you did hear a ghost all the clues were there.
 
If you don't know what e.v.p is then you don't have much reserch their voices being recorded on a tape recorders, v.c.rs, computers,etc just record a quiet room for entire day or for some hours at high volume and play it backwards and you'll hear voices of the paranormal ghost, demon

EVP is bullshit. What you hear is statics and disturbances, peoples' minds do the rest. Just like with the hidden message in "Just another brick in the wall". Took me hours to actually hear it, and now I am unable to hear anything else!

Wow Schitzophrenia is your best answer for people being possesed look up the Emily Rose case then get back to me

Well, if you know about the Emily Rose case, I am pretty sure you know that Emily Rose never existed. They made a movie based upon the exorcism case of Anneliese Michel, a German girl who had - not schitzophrenia, no! - epilepsia and a fanatic catholic mother! She died because of the exorcism! Those priests basically killed her.
 
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Yes the priests killed her they did an exorcism with hammers and twisted her body, epilepsia doesn't do that to you, they have photos and recordings and your best answer is epilepsia.
 
Apparently you know nothing about the case. What do you think she died from?
It's a proven fact that this girl was epileptic, she was even treated for it, although it definitely wasn't epilepsia what killed her. She starved and was totally exhausted.

And I know there are pictures and recordings. None of them show anything that would make me believe that the poor girl was possessed by demons! Human imagination is very powerful! It is easy to make someone with her background believe that she was possessed. She wasn't. She was just sick.

As creepy as pictures like this one might be!
 
Well GQ if you were paying attention then you would know what i was talking about if anything you're making assumptions because I said the knife was on top of three boxes about two feet away are you listening THREEEEE BOXESSS high so what kind of energy or laws of physics could've made that happen for the hunderth time I explained all of this a few pages back and thanks for worrying about my punctuation.
Back step I like your story very freaky I believe you did hear a ghost all the clues were there.

I was listening. Did you read about Occam’s razor? Ok after you do that then you'll understand what I am saying. And please don't lecture me on Physics. I studied Physics and Photonics at the University of Pittsburgh for my undergrad degree. I'm a couple of months away from getting another one at Arizona State in Electronics Engineering. I have another 2 year one in Avionics technology for F-16's from the Air Force. I'm pretty good at the stuff.

Basically what i'm saying is that before one jumps to the conclusion that some paranormal being without a physical presence stopped to throw a knife without a motive at your buddy we should first examine the most probable scenarios. Ancient culture would blame lightning in the sky on the Gods being angry due to their lack of knowledge. We now know that static electricity build up in the clouds causes this phenomenon. See the correlation? Jumping to conclusions. There very well might have been a ghost that tossed that knife but until one can verify it, it is far from the simplest explanation and therefore not likely to be the correct one.

I don't fully understand the details of your story due to your lack of punctuation but i'm certain this community of minds can find a more plausible explanation for your odd occurrence.

GQ
 
EVP is bullshit. What you hear is statics and disturbances, peoples' minds do the rest. Just like with the hidden message in "Just another brick in the wall". Took me hours to actually hear it, and now I am unable to hear anything else!



Well, if you know about the Emily Rose case, I am pretty sure you know that Emily Rose never existed. They made a movie based upon the exorcism case of Anneliese Michel, a German girl who had - not schitzophrenia, no! - epilepsia and a fanatic catholic mother! She died because of the exorcism! Those priests basically killed her.

Ahhh. The danger in jumping to silly conclusions. How many humans have died due to such silly assumptions? Epileptics through out history have always been assumed to be possessed by "demons" and the like and exposed to harsh treatment as a result. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Epilepsy#History

Was that the simplest explanation? Nope. Thank God we had some scientist that ignored the standard assumption and actually did research to help the disease. Now it is very treatable in most cases.
 
The really scary thing is, it was very treatable already when Anneliese Michel died - that was in 1976! See what can happen if people refuse to learn about basic scientific facts and instead prefer to stay ignorant and believe in ghosts and demons?
 
You know, right now I will stick to my "overinterpretation of technical flaws"-theory because it seems far more likely to me. 🙂
 
how many times have you ever gone to get in the shower and had a strange feeling someone was behind the curtain?

Uhm...let me count...never! 🙂

Well, that someone is your energy imprint or someone elses in the house that was left there from a previous time.

Or it could just be my imagination after having seen "Psycho" too often!
 
In the dark cellar. But just if I start thinking about scary shit, and really only if it's dark. And that tells me that there is nothing more than my latest impressions of "The Grudge". 🙂
 
Hi all here ! I'd like to bring my contribution to this thread. In 1999, I met a guy from Whales, an atheist (I myself am an atheist, or I guess, a skeptic and an agnostic at least) who had some sort of explanation for Ghosts sightings. Yes, as an atheist, he "believed in ghosts", but for him this had nothing supernatural - though I still think the way he explained was odd, to say the least. There it is : apparently, some matters like wood and stone have the property ( don't ask me why !) to "record" the trace of images and even facts from the past, like human figures, and "project back " in the world of today such traces of strong events. The same theory was said in one of Simon Marsden's photographs books, a guy who published several books of magnificent B&W photos of "haunted" places, like forests, castles etc. The guy I met did believe quite well the (many, apparently) persons who told him they had seen a ghost, and he didn't think they were nuts. He also told me he had seen some himself - and it didn't seem to scare him the least ! For him it was just a "photo-natural", physical phenomenon, a bit like a rainbow (it was he who made that comparison), triggered by natural elements of the surroundings, a throwback picture from the past that could appear sometimes to some people. And, as weird as it sounds, it was just natural thing to him, nothing supernatural ! Have anyone here ever heard about that kind of explanation ? If not, what do you think of such theories ? All in all, it seems to click with taptoematt's last post on this thread, doesn't it ?
 
I've heard the theory before, and I don't believe it, because if that was the case, ghosts could be recreated like on a film projector. That never happened though. The theory that seems most likely to me right now is, that infrasound causes people to see ghosts. It sounds pretty plausible, and musicians tend to experience similar stuff quite often.
 
I've heard the theory before, and I don't believe it, because if that was the case, ghosts could be recreated like on a film projector. That never happened though. The theory that seems most likely to me right now is, that infrasound causes people to see ghosts. It sounds pretty plausible, and musicians tend to experience similar stuff quite often.

Wow ! You being so fast to reply could almost be seen as an hallucination ! :thumbsup: I don't know about 'ghost-sounds' phenomenon, or things like that though. But I remember I once met another guy who firmly believed in ghosts like dead people's voices showing up thru phone calls, "ghosts energies" switching lights off and on, or television disrupted sound waves, etc. I don't recall any 'details' of it because it was too crazy for me to stuff it in my head in the first place ! :illogical I had never heard crazy things like that before, lol !
 
I once met another guy who firmly believed in ghosts like dead people's voices showing up thru phone calls, "ghosts energies" switching lights off and on, or television disrupted sound waves, etc.

Well, I am pretty sure that is not happening. 🙂
 
I probably laugh easily, but your Boom, Baby with the drawing cracks me up ! LOL

It would be nice if this sheep exploded for real, ah ha !
 
LOL, that is not what it is supposed to mean though 😉
 
It either happens or it doesn't and most residual energy is programmed on a loop, so it happens at intervals wheather anyone is there to observe it or not.

So why not just put up cameras in a certain spot where ghost sightings are reported? Sooner or later it should show up. It doesn't. Why? Because it is not residual energy programmed in a loop.

Don't understand what you mean by infrasound.I'm a musician and have never experienced it..

I truly wish I could explain it in German. Certain sound frequencies make you see things that could be interpreted as ghosts. I think that's about as detailed as I can get with it. 🙂
 
By the way, have anyone here seen this quite interesting movie called "Contact" with Jodie Foster ? It adresses the same thread, and confronts theists and atheists points of view and analysises.
I found it very clever when it was released, I should see it again I think. Very intersting for people interested in this question, whether you believe in anything or not.
 
I had a dream that I was in a warehouse just looking around ,when out of nowhere my uncle from Germany grabs me on the shoulder.
I was frightened and screamed in my sleep until my wife shook me up out of it. I looked at the clock, it was 1am in the morning.
When I got up in the morning, I recieved a phone call from my mother informing me my uncle in Germany had passed away at 7am, which was 1am eastcoast time.

This might be coincidence or maybe even telepathy, but no proof for ghosts.

They actually do that, and thats exactly how they are catching this stuff... watch some of these paranormal teams at work.

I am really spending a lot of time researching that kind of stuff, and I have NEVER EVER seen a ghost on camera. These paranormal teams at work are doing nothing more than trying to get a good audience on TV so they can make some money.
 
I can't say for certain that apparitions impact the 3rd dimension, like ghosts. I need to find out more about that, but I'm not ruling it out.
Although, I can say for certain they can impact us from the 5th dimension, because it happened to me.
I had a dream that I was in a warehouse just looking around ,when out of nowhere my uncle from Germany grabs me on the shoulder.
I was frightened and screamed in my sleep until my wife shook me up out of it. I looked at the clock, it was 1am in the morning.
When I got up in the morning, I recieved a phone call from my mother informing me my uncle in Germany had passed away at 7am, which was 1am eastcoast time.

OMG I ALSO had a horrible experience like this before ! Here it is. It was december 1988, I then was 17. On a tuesday, my oncle in his car saw me in a street as I was walking after school and he took me back home in his car. When he left me by my parents house, he told me "Tell your mother we'll come see her this sunday" and drove away. Then, in my sleep on friday morning, I was dreaming I was seing that scene happening again, except that, right after, I was "seeing" him getting killed in a car crash ! And at that very moment, as I was seeing that happening in my dream, my mother suddenly bursted in my bedroom, saying in frantic "Christophe, wake up, your uncle has just died !!!" Even I was being 'brutally" brought back to reality, I exclaimed " 'ts not possible, I just dreamed he got killed in a car crash!" But as astonishing as it sounds, my mother almost paid no attention to that, and just replied "well, yeah, anyway then, just hurry up you'll be late for school" !! - which I think is a really weird 'non-reaction" too !
My uncle did NOT die in a car crash though - he died at about 5 in the morning from a sudden 'brain attack" - I don't know the english word for it.
I never told about that extraordinary coincidence to my mother again, not to any member of my family, for I figured no-one would ever believe me anyway, and instead expected they would rather hate me for making up lies of very bad taste. I am not saying this creepy experience led me or leads me to believe anything in the "supernatural", I'm just saying it did happen, I had this dream indeed, and, let me tell you, it wasn't a pleasing experience, when it turned out to connect to reality. I don't wish that kind of dream to anyone.

PS _ Sorry I'm not a "fast typer", and I must correct my mistakes afterwards.
 
The only problem is you can't really recreate, by choice, a glitch or memory in the 3 dimentional construct of matter. It either happens or it doesn't and most residual energy is programmed on a loop, so it happens at intervals wheather anyone is there to observe it or not.
Don't understand what you mean by infrasound.I'm a musician and have never experienced it..


We exist in three spatial dimensions and one temporal dimension equaling four dimensions. Length, width, height and time is the best way to explain it. As we live in 4 dimensions however we cannot exist in any more or any less. Imagine a world with only 2 spatial dimensions and 1 temporal one. It'd be like jumping into a cartoon. Obviously the cartoon is only a representation of a 3 dimensional world(length width, time). Look at this pic: http://img.coplusk.net/steps/0002/6395/BOX_HEE_1242060355.jpg. Seeing as we are in 4 dimensions we can see how this 2d(length and width) image can be shaped in 4 dimensions(length, width, height and time) into a 3d cube. There is a similar 3d construct that renowned physicist Michio Kaku has in his book "hyperspace" that gives one the impression of 4 dimensions(all temporal....length, width, height, unknown)
http://www.rodmillar.com/Dimensional Art 1/images/TesseractSculpture2.jpg

Anyway...the thought that beings from other spatial dimensions could interact with us is VERY unlikely and theoretically impossible. I do wonder if there is a 5th temporal dimension and if we could interact with them. We are subject to time...imagine beings that are subject to time and some other temporal dimension similar to time. We could in theory occupy the same space but never see each other much like you don't see your friend if he's late.

While I can't say I believe in ghost. I will say that reality is far more fantastic than our imaginations can even fathom! I think ghost are pretty tame on the spectrum of odd things one would find in the universe. Just needs to be verifiable before jumping the gun.

One thing that blew my mind years ago:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Quantum_tunnelling

Basically saying that a person with enough "potential energy" could walk through a wall(like a ghost!). However the amount of energy needed has never existed in the universe so therefore the odds are highly unlikely.....but it is still possible. Electrons tunnell through small barriers al the time. Matter passing through matter exhibiting matters particle wave duality. Try walking through a wall 10^25 times and it will happen once. Crazy huh?

GQguy
 
Oh C'mon rhiannon ...lol, you're not be honest with yourself. It could be any room, anywhere where you have a feeling that you're not alone or someones in the room with you....never.....really?????

I've lived alone for three years and never once had that problem, until I watched Paranormal Activity a few months ago. It's the human imagination, you just need something to trigger it.
 
Hi Folks, sorry I just went for my late quick dinner. I still think anything has to be demonstrated before believed in, but my experience is something that had happened, whatever I might want to think of it. I don't feel comfortable drawing any conclusions from it, I just jumped on the telling of taptoematt's similar experience. Otherwise, I never saw ghosts, heard voices and stuff like that. And yes, for me, the "unexplained natural" is more likely is to exist in my opinion, than the "supernatural", because, well... everything that does exist, exists then in the natural world, which includes anything existing ! Since nature is the whole of whatever exists - and this, however strange some of it is or looks like ! So, "Supernatural" is a wrong term anyway when you think of it, whatever it is real or not ! Almost three years later, I had another dream-connecting-to-some-reality experience, however not with a death connection. Early September 1991, I was lodged in a very tiny room while being involved then in a Theatre Festival. One night, I had this very vivid dream : I was in the times of the French Revolution, being dragged through the streets onto a carriage with other persons, under a beautiful summer day (the feel was very palpable and clear as I was dreaming along), all with our fists tied being our backs...ahead to lose our heads, if you pardon the pun : yes we were sent to the guillotine !! It was such a "physical" dream, crisp with image details, it was, in those terms, 'exceptionnal' - I mean that, usually, my dreams are not so clear visually. Then we arrived at the place of the execution, I was attached to the guillotine, I then shouted "Vive la révolution !!" and then the blade fell down on my neck - it was at this moment that I woke up, shaking. Up until then, guys, nothing so exceptional, will you say - and I fully agree. EXCEPT that when I woke up, I discovered that the small furniture next to me has been moved about 50 inch away from my bed, that there were drips of blood on the floor, and that I had a wide, slash-marked superficial wound, from left to right on my throat ! I swear I am not kidding you ! Drips of blood all over my naked chest from my wound, and I had been wearing nothing around my neck that night, nothing to have been the cause of this wound, and no blood under my fingernails. Door and window were firmly closed FROM THE INSIDE. I can only let you guess my surprise when I took a look at myself in the mirror ! When I went to the rehearsal this morning, the stage director spotted me in the corridor and said at once "Oh shit, you know what ? I had dreamed last night that you had died and that we all went to your funeral, and it was a horrible rainy day, and we were all very sad" and suddenly he saw my neck and asked what happened. I told him what happened, and that I had no explaination but just woke up as I was then, and he said "Oh god, please be careful, if whatever happens to you I'm gonna feel guilty for it now !" All day long, I was asked what had happened to my throat, and I can tell you it's quite embarrassing to say that I didn't know, that "No, I swear I was not into a fight !" and that I just happened to wake up like this ! The wound on my throat stayed FOR WEEKS before disappearing altogether. I'm sure that, when it happened, people thought that I was lying to them, and that I was hiding them something. But EVEN I didn't know what happened !! And the thing is... I NEVER KNEW !
Now, years later, what do I think about it ? I still don't know, but it just remains one of the strangest things that ever happened to me !
 
I'd like to add that I NEVER was into alcohol nor drugs of any kind ( except if you count tickling girls as a drug, which I would fully agree with then ! lol), and never into esoterism or whatever. Just turned out that those two weird, freaky events have happened anyway.
 
I'd like to add that I NEVER was into alcohol nor drugs of any kind ( except if you count tickling girls as a drug, which I would fully agree with then ! lol), and never into esoterism or whatever. Just turned out that those two weird, freaky events have happened anyway.

I don't have an explaination how you recieved the wounds either , although very interesting account.
 
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