I've been reading through some other threads tonight..
I'm done here.
Honest to God.
The weirdos have won.
I know there are normal people out there.
I've met them.
I also know most of them aren't active posters here.
So it's plenty possible to be a part of this community without the TMF.
Chalk me up as another casualty of the predatory and skeevy nature of this forum.
If standing up to these fucks isn't something that's done around here, and the answer given to this stuff is a collective "ignore it!", well..this isn't a place for me.
You guys can have the good vibes and negativity free zone while people like this run amok amongst you.
Somehow.
I've got to go figure out how exactly you delete an account on here, or if it's even possible.
I'm out guys. Catch me on FetLife.
U/N: Rectangular
Or maybe you only have to accept the nature of the human being. The differences between a person who perform his life well and other who perform bad is the ethical principal which I think are not relates to some silly stuff that you can post in this forum. Moreover I allow your grandfather shot me because mine is dead.
I've been following this thread, for what it's worth. Seems to me it started out on a very good note, worthwhile, we've all been a jack-o-lantern at one point or another and we admit it. But as always, it started to devolve, go downhill, fall apart. Especially the past few pages. Basically, what in physics is called entropy. It is inevitable, even in chats and forums apparently.
I prefer non-consensual, to a degree. Do I want my boyfriend to ask me nicely every time he tickles me? Fuck no, that takes part of the fun out of it. I wanna know who here actually does that? "Can I tickle you now" to their lee? lololol but when you only have one set of understanding of something it can be difficult to see it in another light.
I read The Internet's blog just now and it really made me sad. This is why we can't have nice things, because people just can't help themselves from making arguments when there aren't any.
Entropy....where did non-consensual enter into the original post (and....yes I know......)? Why does we do this to ourselves? (I think that is what the original post is asking .... or axing, if you like ebonics).
Entropy....where did non-consensual enter into the original post (and....yes I know......)? Why does we do this to ourselves? (I think that is what the original post is asking .... or axing, if you like ebonics).
When Rectangle decided rather that letting this attempt at positivity be, he needed to remind of us of his destiny to be a superhero. To right wrongs and to pound justice into the hearts of evildoers everywhere! (Sorry, I was a Tick fan). We can't get along because someone somewhere is a bad person.
It kept going when people responded to it and I'm not helping of course.
Well, this was certainly something. I admit, I hardly post on here, ever (initially being scared by the "big bad TMF website" when I first slipped into it), and I thought this was quite a pleasant, odd(?) thread to start. And read.
With it being debated over 90% of communication is non-verbal, only able to read text, on that ground is where I 'try' to understand non-con (it's a knee-jerk reaction to scream 'NO! STOP!' when tickles first alight on one's skin, but being able to read the expression of a person really lets one know when their body language [eyes, mouth, brows, limbs, etc.] is letting them know when you're pushing against that finite line). I'm sure everyone has varying degrees of desiring resistance when tickling, but again, so much can be misunderstood when only given one's understanding of text in trying to elaborate their thoughts (which even 'they' might not be able to fully understand themselves).
But this thread isn't about that. I 'think' it's about trying to express positive sentiments when dealing with this oft ostracized, stigmatized 'interest' we all seem to share, being on such a niche site as tickling. It isn't that we're faced with enough issues, having an interest that isn't accepted by society in large. Spread the love (and if unsure, make that love "platonic")!
It seems, if you're going to stand for anything, you're going to offend someone. Best try to make the best of things, being able to stand yourself, and hopefully everyone will agree.
Well......I have a different perspective about it now, although it's true I was completely flummoxed as to how something so clear could be taken so wrong.
I think it was a great success! First off, the people who needed to see it, saw it, they got it (I include me in that group).
Second off, we had lots of people comment - these are my favorite kinds of threads by the way, where everyone jumps in. Some of the people who commented don't usually post! True, the rambling rampage squashed them and scared them away, but everyone was on the same page for a good while before that happened.
It didn't get negative until three pages! Or was it two? lol Until then, we all managed to keep it together. Next time....we'll make it to four pages! It wasn't a bunch of us wrecking the joint, it was one guy who obviously has his issues. Could have been worse!
No need to beat a dead horse other than for the thrill of it all, but if you don' t mind, for posterity, I just want to say:
1.) I don't know how it turned into "I'm not apologizing goddammit!". I happened to apologize for my own behavior in the original post, but I never asked - nor did I expect or desire - anyone else to apologize. The main thrust of the OP was self-policing, not public apology.
2.) I also don't know why a couple of people thought this thread was about never having arguments on the Forum, especially when it comes to calling out bad behavior. So - in slow motion - here's paragraph two - the only thing closer to the top is paragraph one! - I put it right up there! - this should have nipped it right in the bud. Paragraph two, wherein it is written:
Don't get me wrong: there's definitely times where people may get a little sharp, maybe someone is acting like an ass and they need to be put in their place... maybe there's a subject where there a two divergent points of view......I'm not saying we aren't going to have those instances.....but every day? Every thread? No poster is spared?
3.) Lastly, just to squash down the hysteria: I think we've always done a good job policing ourselves. And it's never been down to just one person calling people out.
In 16 years, how many times has the FBI swooped down and found "evildoers" (lol) in our midst?
Writing this thread was cathartic and has already borne tangible fruit, so........ bizarre thread hijacking aside..... this was good!
When Rectangle decided rather that letting this attempt at positivity be, he needed to remind of us of his destiny to be a superhero. To right wrongs and to pound justice into the hearts of evildoers everywhere! (Sorry, I was a Tick fan). We can't get along because someone somewhere is a bad person.
It kept going when people responded to it and I'm not helping of course.
I still think The Internet's sentiment is worth following, even if this early attempt crashed.
After all, how many things were accomplished on the first try?
P.S. Have you seen the new Tick on Netflix? I miss Patrick Warburton, but it has a dark spin that already has people speculating about what's really going on.
Well. You couldn’t write this shit, could you. Someone starts a thread about repentance, humility, positivity, and somebody else leaves the forum as a result! If I was a little more cynical, I might now be imagining The Internet and Rectangle exchanging snigger-littered PMs, discussing when they would reveal to the forum that it was all just a hoax! Certainly that route would offer a more sensible explanation for what happened here. lol
But I agree with The Internet’s sentiments as expressed above. Just because a thread ends badly doesn’t mean it has been a waste of time – far from it! Not that it has ended, anyway! Just took a bit of a fucked up detour, that’s all. lol
I don’t really know this Rectangle guy, but I strongly suspect that beneath it all he’s a decent, considerate, responsible fella. And maybe he’ll come back yet, who knows! But there did seem to be an odd and unhealthy lust for self-martyrdom there. And his departing comment consummated that approach to the forum perfectly – like in his own mind he was sacrificing himself for a just cause. He sort of took his own TMF life. *very awkward shrug* Hopefully he’s able to work through whatever issues he has. We’ve all got ‘em, after all.
But for what it's worth, I do feel more positive about the forum now than I did before this thread existed. Hopefully others feel the same, too. Perspective, perspective.
Look what an earful I get and it's all awful too
Every time I try to go get me a little tickle.
-Bob Dylan
How low can you go?
Some of us - and I most definitely include myself in this group - stomp around the Forum like little caesars, talking to other members like we own the place, like we invented the fetish. Not only are we relentlessly negative to each other, we're negative to innocent members of the board, folks who are not part of the Snark Mafia, people who mean no harm to anyone but are getting inhibited to post because they don't want their heads bitten off. I know this, because they've told me! And even if they didn't, I can see it and so probably can you.
Don't get me wrong: there's definitely times where people may get a little sharp, maybe someone is acting like an ass and they need to be put in their place... maybe there's a subject where there a two divergent points of view......I'm not saying we aren't going to have those instances.....but every day? Every thread? No poster is spared?
When one of the friendliest, sunniest members of the Forum told me last night that they were getting shy about posting because they were sad - andhurt - about all the negativity, I felt like things have gone far enough that perhaps we should address it right here, out in the open.
I take ownership for some of this. SOME, not all. I get into it often, not every day! I mean, it seems like there are some on this board that can't get through a day without undercutting, undermining, embarrassing, humiliating, discouraging, negating some other member of the Forum, often multiple times a day. If you're one of these people, make no mistake about it: you're a troll, and you need Anti-Troll Cream.
But like I said: it's me too. Me too with great frequency, and I'm ashamed to admit it. I am most definitely in the top percentile, so I'm not shaking the finger at just other people. The other day we're having a little back and forth about movies, and Cosmo_ac leaves a very reasonable comment with not a trace of unfriendliness.....and I jumped all over him. And he was echoing something I had already written! I couldn't even agree to agree. And I know I'm not the only person who has this problem. I get into it often with someone who shares mostly - or entirely - the same viewpoints and we split hairs for pages. We can't agree to agree.
And so Cosmo, brother, will you please accept my sincerest apologies for my rude attitude? You innocently contribute to a thread and next thing you know you're in the ring with some obnoxious guy called The Internet, sorry man. Jeff, even moreso. I got into it with TMFJeff! TMFJEFF! Am I bats?!!!!
Milagros wished me DEATH....TWICE, recently! MORTO! No more Leo! It doesn't get sunnier and friendlier than Milagros! I'm running out of friends to lose in this place! If Milagros is wishing me off the face of the planet, something is amiss....and it ain't Milagros!
Sharing is bragging?
This is a little side-street, in fact this could probably be its own thread, but let me get this out here.
I don't know when this phenomenon started, but my gosh, it didn't use to be like this. Back in the day, if you scored yourself a tickle, you'd come here, share it with the group, and we'd all go "yay! Good work, son!" or "Good for you, sis!"
It's with this spirit that I share my own experiences in pertinent threads. Well.....when I first did this when I rejoined, I learned quick how times had changed. People jumped all over me like monkeys. And these were stories of pretty benign tickles; not goosing strangers or anything. Next thing you know, page after page of bickering. ???WHAAAAT????? I thought I'd just be sharing a memory for the Forum, I wasn't expecting the Spanish Inquisition!
A friend of mine, he's been having great luck lately. He doesn't feel comfortable sharing his good fortune here! I mean, he can share it with me, but he has completely been inhibited from posting them for the larger community, lest he be accused of "bragging". Me too!
If I share an experience, I'm not bragging. Bragging? Like what....I am the greatest tickler ever? That would be bragging. Sharing my good luck with the only people on the planet who might understand and appreciate it? I don't understand why someone would be perturbed by that. I've been single for many years now, I'm not sitting here cross-eyed with lust and yearning, and saying "Bah Humbug" to those who are currently getting lucky. And usually when I'm sharing something, I'm doing it in hopes someone else will share their experiences. Not to "get off" on, just because we've all been there! Maybe I'll learn a new trick or something?
Does this really bother people? Or is it just, like, one or two? I thought that's what we're here to do in the Tickling Discussion forum: discuss tickling!
Doing My Part
Maybe some of us just need to shut the fuck up. Like me, for instance! The Golden Rule: if you don't have anything nice to say, don't say it. Maybe I just shouldn't interact in comments with people, at least not in this section, since I can't play nice. Or whatever, I don't have to be legalistic about it, but I'm going to try and do MY part to improve the vibe around here, and that means turning the other cheek. "He who covers over an offense promotes love". And i hope we can all pitch in, those of us culprits, let's clean up the joint, it smells like coffee and cigarettes in here. Open up the window, let some light in. Let's let the Forum breathe. Let new voices populate rather than the same old grouches. The grouches should be shepherding and encouraging the shy and the meek, not biting their heads off!
One Last Apology For The Road
The list is long so let me just make it a blanket statement: if I've hurt anybody's feelings, if I've crossed a line, if I've made someone feel reticent about posting.....if I've even just irritated you or pissed you off or was a stone in your passway in any way......I am truly sorry. I used this line before privately but I want to say it everybody: when I first came back to the TMF, I wanted to be like Santa Claus. Not Satan Claus!
So to the you-know-who-you-ares and to the ones that I may don't even know, to all of us, I'm begging on my bended knees, under your window and yelling it at ya: please....lay down your arms!
See, this is a forum for people who are visiting a forum to get their rocks off, to discuss what gets their rocks off. Selfishness is inherent because if it didn't get their rocks off, they get pissed off.
See, this is a forum for people who are visiting a forum to get their rocks off, to discuss what gets their rocks off. Selfishness is inherent because if it didn't get their rocks off, they get pissed off.
Except that it's not just that.
It might be for some people, sure, but for more than a few, it's a chance to discuss what they like without having to navigate explaining it to people, since there's already a general conclusion about what gets their rocks off.
Except that it's not just that.
It might be for some people, sure, but for more than a few, it's a chance to discuss what they like without having to navigate explaining it to people, since there's already a general conclusion about what gets their rocks off.
Well, I'm interested in my tickle fetish and have learned lots out of discussion threads, including a whole slew of question threads I started when I first rejoined. I hardly ever go into the Video section anymore, and never went to "learn" (what do you learn from the Video section? That we find hairbrushes and toothbrushes sexy? lol)
Woke up this morning with a pit in my stomach. Did that really happen?
Went and read back through some of my old posts.
What a mess.
I'm not that guy I see.
I don't want to be that guy.
I don't want to be remembered as that guy, either.
I certainly don't want to go into some self-imposed exile from the TMF.
I love this place.
ComfortEagle keeps saying it's just a fetish forum, but it's more than that.
It's been a rally point for me my entire life whenever I felt alone in all of this.
I'm ashamed at my conduct, embarrassed, humiliated.
It's like I was drunk on anger.
I just now started getting involved in the community for real. I don't want to be the guy at gatherings standing in the corner while people whisper "That's that rage-o-holic that flipped shit on the forums".
The mess made on the last couple of pages on this thread are of my doing, and mine alone.
I let my anger reverberate around the echo chamber in my head, getting louder and louder until it drowned out all voices of reason.
I humbly beg forgiveness from anyone I lashed out at, you didn't deserve it and the fault is mine.
I don't know what the fuck is wrong with me lately.
I'm better than this.
It's a humbling thing to be surrounded by a big fat mess and know it's your fault.
First inclination is to run and hope it blows over.
Fuck that.
I was the one acting like an idiot on here, and damned if I'm not going to own up to it.
I've got friends on here, and people I respect.
It's not worth turning my back on all of that because my anger issues got out of hand for a night or two.
I apologize as deeply and sincerely as text can convey.
Woke up this morning with a pit in my stomach. Did that really happen?
Went and read back through some of my old posts.
What a mess.
I'm not that guy I see.
I don't want to be that guy.
I don't want to be remembered as that guy, either.
I certainly don't want to go into some self-imposed exile from the TMF.
I love this place.
ComfortEagle keeps saying it's just a fetish forum, but it's more than that.
It's been a rally point for me my entire life whenever I felt alone in all of this.
I'm ashamed at my conduct, embarrassed, humiliated.
It's like I was drunk on anger.
I just now started getting involved in the community for real. I don't want to be the guy at gatherings standing in the corner while people whisper "That's that rage-o-holic that flipped shit on the forums".
The mess made on the last couple of pages on this thread are of my doing, and mine alone.
I let my anger reverberate around the echo chamber in my head, getting louder and louder until it drowned out all voices of reason.
I humbly beg forgiveness from anyone I lashed out at, you didn't deserve it and the fault is mine.
I don't know what the fuck is wrong with me lately.
I'm better than this.
It's a humbling thing to be surrounded by a big fat mess and know it's your fault.
First inclination is to run and hope it blows over.
Fuck that.
I was the one acting like an idiot on here, and damned if I'm not going to own up to it.
I've got friends on here, and people I respect.
It's not worth turning my back on all of that because my anger issues got out of hand for a night or two.
I apologize as deeply and sincerely as text can convey.
I have been there before. Unlike you though, my understanding was a much more gradual process. I am amazed that you served our country while fighting the internal demons you carried. Mine nearly killed me multiple times without seeing the horrors of war. I have tons of respect for you.
I also agree to what your response was to Comfort. This forum is more than tickling obsession place for a lot of folks. We are not perfect, sometimes we let our angers, fears, pride, etc. get the best of us. I am speaking of myself for sure. That is one of the reasons for my screen name.
I can't Bash or Nest with you folks. In many ways, this is the closest I will ever get. Still I think this thread - if read in its entirety - would be instructive to prospective members.
Here's some positive vibes for you. Proof that the internet (the real internet, not The Internet, I mean... ..uh...you know what I mean) can sometimes do very nice things.
I can't Bash or Nest with you folks. In many ways, this is the closest I will ever get. Still I think this thread - if read in its entirety - would be instructive to prospective members.
You are coming from a deep seated place within your heart Rectangle. So... hug your wife, hug your child... and smile when you are next in front of the mirror. For me and for those who care... Within here for the people who took the time to try to help you understand. You are brave. And remember you ARE a good man. And that IS something of HUGE moral value. You can't put a price tag on that. We all make mistakes even with the best of intentions. I think we all saw that...
Just remember... (and here some will find this very cheesy...but I am very cheesy... and cheesy exists for a reason... but... the message is true...)
Well, I'm interested in my tickle fetish and have learned lots out of discussion threads, including a whole slew of question threads I started when I first rejoined. I hardly ever go into the Video section anymore, and never went to "learn" (what do you learn from the Video section? That we find hairbrushes and toothbrushes sexy? lol)
Exactly lol. And that everyone wants a lee who goes crazy laughing. But really I'm starting to think finding someone is really a case of finding someone to begin with.