Police: Wal-Mart Shopper Slaps Crying Child

[Scouse]

Hitting a 2 year old girl is out of order, but you can understand the guys frustration. Babies can be excused for obvious reasons but if you cant control your walking, talking, schoolaged child, leave it at home.

 

[StevenStryke34]

hmmm

The way I see it, theres nothing wrong with a butt smack or slap across the face. I got both as a kid,(im only 22, so its still fresh in my memory haha) and I turned out completely fine, it didn't traumatize me, I don't fear my parents, infact I have a very good relationship with them, I'd never trade them for anything. So if done correctly and with meaning, it can stop the behavior, sure got my smartass mouth to quit while it was behind 😀

But seriously, We've all been in situations where some kid is screamin his head off and we've wanted to haul off and smack them, just like I've wanted to run off some asshole on the road, do you do it? nope.

Had this been my kid, I would have ended that guy right then and there, the child abuse scene at walmart would have quickly become a murder scene and a clean up on aisle 7.

 

[StevenStryke34]

But I feel like the people who are gettin their jollies out of this story, or agree with this guy, have had no experience with having a child. I mean I don't have one either, but damn. Any of you WITH children, imagine this happening to yours. not even to mention the story says "Several times". That dude slapped that kid more than once.......

 

[steph]

Thanks Cos~I think she's pretty amazing too. She's so resourceful and thoughtful. She makes it sound so simple~I mean if you think about it, she's right. How difficult is this? If your child isn't good in public, come up with another plan.
'Course between you and me, I'd have drop kicked the old dude in the junk until he collapsed, hopefully of a heart attack and stood there laughing while he gasped for air~NO ONE lays a hand on anyone I care about and lives to tell about it.
XOXO

Steph, tell your friend Jen that she is my hero. Seriously. Not every women has these roads open for her, but she did and she used them. God bless her.

 

[Goodieluver]

But I feel like the people who are gettin their jollies out of this story, or agree with this guy, have had no experience with having a child. I mean I don't have one either, but damn. Any of you WITH children, imagine this happening to yours. not even to mention the story says "Several times". That dude slapped that kid more than once.......

Ive had the experience of being surrounded by children of all ages who have parents who just let them do their own thing without any concern for people outside of their own circle. ESPECIALLY at sporting events. There was some girl at a Sox game a year or 2 ago behind me and a friend, Im bad at placing age but she had no recognition of boundaries or her actions. She was constantly kicking my friends seat and hittin him in the head(unintentionally) with her cotton candy. He asked the mother behind to please control her child. She said Ok or something and it stopped. A few innings later the kid started again, I turned to the little girl and asked her to stop doing it(politely i must say, i even called her honey) and the mother went off on me "Dont tell my child what to do!" to which i said "If you knew how to control your child in a public setting, I wouldn't have to do your job for you" Naturally I did this between pitches cuz im a good fan who doesn't interfere in watching during play. No I don't have a kid but I have 2 nephews I watched grow up closely, one being autistic and now 7 and one who is about 3 so I know the issue of public settings and the difficulties of it all but the responsibility is on the parent to control their kid in public. If your child is fussy then its best to have someone else run your errands or drop your kid off at a relative\family member. Im sure your kid does not want to go shopping with you, Esp when he/she can't get the shiny thing, hence the crying.

People are right, he had no right to put his hands on someone elses child when not asked. But he did not just randomly do it. He asked her to end a situation that was becoming a nuisance in the store

 

[..Glamorous..]

Not everyone has the option of leaving their child at home or with someone.. just an FYI. I'm also sure that some of us have budgets and can NOT stock up on things so we don't run out.. I have to go to Walmart every few days to pick up something, and I DO need it right that second. Waiting is never an option, for me. If my child is crying i try to comfort him, but you can kiss my ass because I am NOT rushing out of the store, leaving behind things I need. I don't typically have the option of leaving my son with my husband.. he works 6 pm to 6 am and sleeps from 8 till 4:30 and leaves for work at 5, like I said some of us have no options. Great if you do.

 

[BellaRisa]

Not everyone has the option of leaving their child at home or with someone.. just an FYI. I'm also sure that some of us have budgets and can NOT stock up on things so we don't run out.. I have to go to Walmart every few days to pick up something, and I DO need it right that second. Waiting is never an option, for me. If my child is crying i try to comfort him, but you can kiss my ass because I am NOT rushing out of the store, leaving behind things I need. I don't typically have the option of leaving my son with my husband.. he works 6 pm to 6 am and sleeps from 8 till 4:30 and leaves for work at 5, like I said some of us have no options. Great if you do.

Stop all that sense making Glam, there are too many people reading this who think life revolves around them and they won't be able to handle your logic.

 

[Cosmo_ac]

I agree. Personally, I would have removed myself from the situation; however, an outside party should never get involved even if they feel that the situation is engulfing them. Adults have to expect diverse behaviors from children when they are in public settings. Many single parents require that his or her child go out with them due to the lack of supervision if left home.

If a 61 year adult has a serious problem with a screaming child, perhaps he should go to store management. Better yet, he should reassess his sensitivity to the many irritating factors that encompass our world.

Oh yeah, i agree, the man went to far. And you are right, there are single parents who don't have any other option then to bring there kids with them.

Thanks Cos~I think she's pretty amazing too. She's so resourceful and thoughtful. She makes it sound so simple~I mean if you think about it, she's right. How difficult is this? If your child isn't good in public, come up with another plan.

Yeah, i deffinitly think this women is pretty resourcful and thoughtful. I don't think it's quiet that simple for everybody, some people don't know anybody or just live in bad locations for such things, but she figured out a plan that works, and the world is a better place for it.

Not everyone has the option of leaving their child at home or with someone.. just an FYI. I'm also sure that some of us have budgets and can NOT stock up on things so we don't run out.. I have to go to Walmart every few days to pick up something, and I DO need it right that second. Waiting is never an option, for me. If my child is crying i try to comfort him, but you can kiss my ass because I am NOT rushing out of the store, leaving behind things I need. I don't typically have the option of leaving my son with my husband.. he works 6 pm to 6 am and sleeps from 8 till 4:30 and leaves for work at 5, like I said some of us have no options. Great if you do.

And the flip side of the coin, which is unfortionate, but when god closes a door and doesn't open a window, what can you do? Fortionatly all children eventually grow up, but until then, Glam is right, some parents don't have those options open to them.

Stop all that sense making Glam, there are too many people reading this who think life revolves around them and they won't be able to handle your logic.

Yup. Damn us for not wanting parents to impose there childrens tantrums on us! Damn us!

 

[BellaRisa]

Damn us for not wanting parents to impose there childrens tantrums on us! Damn us!

Damn you for expecting small children to occasionally behave like small children and not androids so you can buy your Doritos and Mountain Dew in silence? Very well then, I damn thee 😉

 

[..Glamorous..]

Oh yeah, i agree, the man went to far. And you are right, there are single parents who don't have any other option then to bring there kids with them.



Yeah, i deffinitly think this women is pretty resourcful and thoughtful. I don't think it's quiet that simple for everybody, some people don't know anybody or just live in bad locations for such things, but she figured out a plan that works, and the world is a better place for it.



And the flip side of the coin, which is unfortionate, but when god closes a door and doesn't open a window, what can you do? Fortionatly all children eventually grow up, but until then, Glam is right, some parents don't have those options open to them.



Yup. Damn us for not wanting parents to impose there childrens tantrums on us! Damn us!

***NEWS FLASH*** We hate the tantrums MORE than you do!

 

[BellaRisa]

***NEWS FLASH*** We hate the tantrums MORE than you do!

 

[StevenStryke34]

Theres a huge difference between politetly asking someone to stop, like your friend did at a sox game, and saying that you'll "shut them up" The guy was unstable. Most people, myself included at that point would have asked nicely, and if it continued, report it to someone? Like I always say, just because you have kids, doesn't make you parents....

 

[Ticklethatgirl]

Am I a horrible person for laughing at this story, especially the headline?

nope, i did too. But seriously, don't ever take your kids to walmart unless you want something like this to happen. if you don't know why i'm saying this, go there on a rainy tuesday night about an hour before if closes. That's why


Incidentally, that's what i do to cheer myself up if i'm feeling down about myself. some of the people that go there are literally indescribable

 

[venray]

***NEWS FLASH*** We hate the tantrums MORE than you do!

Nah I actually encourage mine to throw hissyfits just to piss people like Cos off...

Good lord...anyone who considers themselves an adult that cant handle hearing a kid cry to the point they "have to take action" needs to get some serious help....


On a side note....I find it best to make funny faces at crying kids as they dont expect it and it usually gives them that "WTF moment" long enough for the parent to regain control.....

 

[Cosmo_ac]

Damn you for expecting small children to occasionally behave like small children and not androids so you can buy your Doritos and Mountain Dew in silence? Very well then, I damn thee

I simply expect parents to not inconvienance the rest of the world anymore then they have to because they decided to have children. And for the record, it's Coke and cool ranch Doritos 😛

***NEWS FLASH*** We hate the tantrums MORE than you do!

I don't doubt that. Just don't share the suffering is all i'm saying.

 

[BellaRisa]

I simply expect parents to not inconvienance the rest of the world anymore then they have to because they decided to have children. And for the record, it's Coke and cool ranch Doritos 😛

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[Cosmo_ac]

http://www.rpi.edu/~markhn/sounds/society.wav

link no worky for me.

 

[Mephistopheles]

Would that be this guy?

 

[BellaRisa]

link no worky for me.

Forget it. The point is simply that being "inconvenienced" by a parent trying to juggle their shopping/whatever they need to get done and an upset child shows a real lack of compassion and understanding for other people, in my eyes. It's one thing if we're talking about a child like Jeffrey:

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...but if I'm not mistaken, in this thread we're talking about the typical shopping situation, where a mom is doing her best to deal with an upset very young child and still get her business conducted so she can get the hell outta there. That's not sharing the suffering, that's just living in a society and expecting other adults to have some compassion and some sense.
I really wonder what childless people expect to have happen in this instance: Is mom supposed to leave the groceries her family needs because there might be sensitive child-free people in line? Are there Wal-Mart thugs whom you can complain to about a crying baby so they can force the mom to leave? Really? I wonder what would happen to their business if working families were afraid to go there with their young children because little Eggbert might cry and upset those who went to their local Wal-Mart for a sophisticated and quiet shopping experience 🙄

Trust me, I understand that crying babies are obnoxious; I'm just saying it's not always about you 🙂

 

[Radiohead 7140]

guy definitely sounds unstable me to me, though what kinda threw me was that he was charged with a felony. i can see why, but if the mother had done it instead what kind of crime would that be?

 

[WorkInProgress]

guy definitely sounds unstable me to me, though what kinda threw me was that he was charged with a felony. i can see why, but if the mother had done it instead what kind of crime would that be?

Allowing parents some latitude when it comes to physical punishment is what I consider a lesser of two evils. I don't like the idea of a mother slapping her two-year-old baby, and I don't think it's good parenting, but I would need more than that to think that she should be charged with anything. But I regard the man as the moral equivalent of a child molester, a predator. I regard what he did as a clear-cut felony, and I regard him as dangerous. The most generous sentence that I could possibly consider giving to him, if I were the judge, would be a year in jail and ten years of probation. I might be persuaded to suspend the year in jail if he could really convince me that he understood he had done a horrible thing and needed some serious counseling. But if, in court, he showed even the remotest sign of still thinking he was justified, he would get ten years in jail, not one.

If you don't want to hear babies cry, move to a deserted island.

 

[Cosmo_ac]

Forget it. The point is simply that being "inconvenienced" by a parent trying to juggle their shopping/whatever they need to get done and an upset child shows a real lack of compassion and understanding for other people, in my eyes. It's one thing if we're talking about a child like Jeffrey:

...but if I'm not mistaken, in this thread we're talking about the typical shopping situation, where a mom is doing her best to deal with an upset very young child and still get her business conducted so she can get the hell outta there. That's not sharing the suffering, that's just living in a society and expecting other adults to have some compassion and some sense.

Generally speaking, so long as mom is trying to deal with the situation, and i can see that she is trying instead of simply carrying on her own business and walking about as if nothing is happening, then i'm usually relatively satisfied.

I really wonder what childless people expect to have happen in this instance: Is mom supposed to leave the groceries her family needs because there might be sensitive child-free people in line? Are there Wal-Mart thugs whom you can complain to about a crying baby so they can force the mom to leave? Really? I wonder what would happen to their business if working families were afraid to go there with their young children because little Eggbert might cry and upset those who went to their local Wal-Mart for a sophisticated and quiet shopping experience

Simple, really. We expect them to deal with there child. Apparently that seems to be too much to expect though. Stephs friend Jen seemed to make a plan, so it seems possible. But i guess we shouldn't say that out loud. I don't expect children to be perfect. I know they will cry. All i want is the mother or father to try and deal with it. Now, i know some people are going to say "Just ignoring them and letting them wail until they tire out is the best method", and perhaps it is. The problem is, for somebody on the outside looking at it, it the mother or father wandering around while there child is crying and screaming up a storm doesn't look like a game plan being enacted. It looks like enaction, plain and simple.

Trust me, I understand that crying babies are obnoxious; I'm just saying it's not always about you

i agree it's not always about me, and a crying baby is another matter altogether. Babies are very different then younger children.

 

[BellaRisa]

Generally speaking, so long as mom is trying to deal with the situation...i agree it's not always about me, and a crying baby is another matter altogether. Babies are very different then younger children.

How many children do you have?

 

[Cosmo_ac]

How many children do you have?

None.

 

[BellaRisa]

None.

I see. Thank you 🙂