The biggest shock of my life..................

[BigJim]

I had no idea that things ran so deep....... After reading this I was so shocked that I could'nt even speak. (And for a loud-mouthed bugger like me, that IS something!)
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Kuj has been the subject of discussion quite frequently of late as his videos are now starting to be released. This comes from the front page of his web-site, which is currently being renovated after being mauled by a hacker.


***Additional Edit: The message that was previously visible here can still be read at www.ticklepalace.com .***

 

[redway10]

It might help to know...

It might help to know (among other things) that Kujman was a moderator on this forum who apparently was removed when he used his position to enforce his own opinion on various matters. The situation is documented in the ticklingforum archives (if you can find it).

He obviously did not take 'getting the boot' well.

I believe that KJ's tickling scenes are very unique and very intense (many people on this forum do not care about scenes like his - they are obviously the majority and they have made their feelings abundantly clear). But the man is clearly an egomaniac - and he has delayed releasing material for an unbelievable amount of time (at least 5 years - check usenet). For the minority of us who would really like to buy some of these videos it's a real bummer (and again I have to emphasize the existence of the vocal majority who do not care about foot/toe bondage, bastinado, itching powder, etc. - you have made your position CLEAR).

However, he doesn't seem to mind that most people are aware that his stalling tactics (hacked web site? no backup copy? right. sure.) are questionable at best.

 

[WallStreet]

Don't be surprised if this thread is soon deleted. The last time I brought it to the forum's attention it was immedietely deleted.
There was good reason for the deleting, as the Mods didn't want flame wars to start from it. You see, unlike the opinion of the man who authored that statement would like you to believe, the Mods here do a good job of keeping this place clean.
I must say that DVNC and I got a good chuckle out of the bozo remark. I guess we're just trying to be good soldiers.
I had written Kuj an e-mail telling him that if he wasn't going to put tickling content on his site, then the least he could do was update his insults, but he still has the same old ones up. The e-mail he sent back to me was a bunch of garbled banter that made no sense.

 

[U.N.Owen]

I think the guy is out of his mind. Seriously, I mean that. That ramble above is the rant of a borderline-psychotic: incoherent, meandering, paranoid, delusional. This is a THIRTY-SIX-HUNDRED-WORD (acc'd'g to my computer's word counter) tract of wild-eyed hate; in a book, that would be almost 15 pages! No one in mental health would devote so much space to such froth. He actually believes that there is a vast conspiracy out to destroy him -- and of course, that anyone who doesn't like his approach is "THE ENEMY." He actually calls his opponents "infidels" and his supporters "the faithful." The very way that he treats his "Yashebia" as a refuge from reality, and talks as if it's really real (ever notice that?), and of course utterly superior to anything anyone else could imagine, are signs of a serious emotional problem.

I think, given all this, that it's a mistake to take him too seriously. We're dealing with a very sick man with a thin grip on reality. Until this, he p****d me off. But mental illness is not something that should arouse anger. Pity him, and ignore him. That's my advice. He's in a world of his own.

 

[BigJim]

You may or may not have a point UN. I certainly find it quite upsetting to discover that there's so much bad feeling behind the scenes of the community. Of course I know nothing of the causes of this stuff, only the after-effects.

I don't think the fact that he refers to Yashebia as a real place and that he talks of infidels and faithful is particularly telling though. On any normal person it would be, but Kuj is anything but normal; he's a specialist. From what I can gather he's been involved in the Renfaire scene since the 70's and after all that role playing it might be difficult for anyone to break character when staying on topic.

 

[Admiral Trouser]

I stopped reading when the words 'communist' and 'Nazi' appeared in the same sentance.

Jesus, I didn't know so many people hated me until today....apparantly, there seems to be an entire site devoted to it. I've never visited the Palace, since i'm newer to the scene than most, and i didn't know that being a 'TMF faithful' would earn me such a big jug of vitriol.

I seriously beleive this man needs help.

Oh well, it's not like he knows where I live. I hope.

 

[dvnc]

*sigh* ... not again...

Alas.

BigJim, I've some links for you, so that you, and anyone else interested, can look back at the last five years of Kujman, and his other address at Kujman1:

http://groups.google.com/groups?q=author:kujman1&hl=en&lr=&ie=UTF-8&start=210&sa=N

http://groups.google.com/groups?q=author:kujman&hl=en&lr=&ie=UTF-8&start=210&sa=N

These two links are the old Deja.com archives of his posts on USENET for the last 6 years or more. Very informative, when wanting to get a perspective of him posting as Kujman and Kujman1. There's folks that claim he's posted under other accounts, but those two are sufficient, with hundreds of posts, and access to the complete thread of the discussions there, to assess such for yourself.

After all, everyone here is an adult.

TicklePalace has Kujman judging AMT and TMF, and others, as bad. Do you feel you're bad? Is everyone out to get him? Read up. There's past history here, and there's USENET. There's many who've dealt with him. Many of us used to be friends with him.

I've sympathy for his situation. It doesn't seem pleasant. I'd not like to live that way.

Fortunately, like you all, I have a choice. I choose not to fight with those who don't think as I do. I don't knock those that like things differently than I like them, whether less "serious" or with less bondage, etc. It's all choice, folks.

Read. Choose for yourself.

BigJim, he's not IN our community. He eschews it. That post you copied here even says "as long as you're not a faithful AMT or TMF member, you are welcome" to his site. We didn't draw such a line, and AMT *can't* draw such a line. He wasn't kicked out of the TMF. Like Haltickling, Kujman's no longer a moderator. The reason behind this is different, but like Hal, Kuj wasn't denied the priviledge of posting here.

It's nothing more than a subculture within our subculture. It's one that dislikes our end of things. That's sad, but it's their right to choose.

We here don't think you have to choose. That's why this post is still here. There no reason to remove it, up to this point. If it turns into a mess, with the rules broken, we'll either clean the mess, or remove the post. That's our job. There's already an open area for posting, and has been for many years. It's alt.multimedia.tk, on USENET, and with that tidbit of info, you all have enough data to use a browser to find this area, and decide for yourself, if you'd not had the chance.

Things are nice here, in this new frontier town. It's no longer the wild west, with shootouts a plenty. We've sheriffs, as it were. It's not perfect, perhaps, but what is? AMT is all good, far as I'm concerned, and so's TMF. I just dig posting and reading posts here more.

Choose freely, people. You're all adults. Enjoy what you choose. I'll hope to see you all continue to post here, regardless of whether you post on AMT, TicklePalace, or any other legal and safe forum.

Peace,

dvnc

 

[QBWeaver]

Big Jim,

Don't fret over that site. That was put up back in March and it stirred up lots of "interesting" bantering back and forth.

Hopefully someday he and Toni will update the site and put in some fun details instead of the "unnecessary" comments. Yet I really do consider myself in good company with DVNC, WallStreet, and TCarlcmi. See... it's become a status symbol to be mentioned on that site as we are.

This is all supposed to be fun! Right?

So let's get back to the fun!

 

[Deleted member 2452]

lmao

jim, and others. that diatribe was pure kujman.
he is arogent, self absorbed, and a liar.
i agree with the person who said he needs help, i told him that a few months ago, via e-mail. yes, he and i have bumped heads over the last 9 month or so. no biggie.
jim, i too was into midevil recreation back in the 70's. i was a member of the s.c.a. helped with a couple fairs in the chicago area till they left the sca, and started doing the fair as a business venture on their own. i never had a problem with comming back to reallity, neither did any of the others i knew. no kujman is a person like no other, thank gods!
steve

 

[Cyrano]

Hah! I haven't laughed like that in a while. Pure gold, yet I must confess I pity him a bit. What a miserable life he must lead. Ah well, I would rather try to feed a salad to a wild tiger than to try to stuff reason into his thick skull. He is proof that empty heads are not empty at all, rather, stuffed with garbage.

 

[Sunriseticklee]

Re: lmao

jim, and others. that diatribe was pure kujman.
he is arogent, self absorbed, and a liar.
i agree with the person who said he needs help, i told him that a few months ago, via e-mail. yes, he and i have bumped heads over the last 9 month or so. no biggie.
jim, i too was into midevil recreation back in the 70's. i was a member of the s.c.a. helped with a couple fairs in the chicago area till they left the sca, and started doing the fair as a business venture on their own. i never had a problem with comming back to reallity, neither did any of the others i knew. no kujman is a person like no other, thank gods!
steve

Damn you are older than I thought Areenactor. 😛 Heehee

Ok... I am going to be blunt. He came across rude, harsh, wrong in some ways, had a couple valid points on others.....

BUT its his personal website. He pays for it... Nobody has to go there if they don't want to, and he has a right to post whatever he wants whether we like it or not.

He could have said... Sunriseticklee is a fat ass bitch and I hope she drowns in crisco.... and guess what... It is his site. Nothing I say can make him change it, or prove that he's wrong... or whatever.

You don't have to like him or respect him, or agree with him. But you do have a choice on whether or not to let his feelings about you (many of you... he doesn't even know!) tear you down... or just roll off your back like water off a duck.

I wouldn't even let this get to me. Remember the song from Growing Pains?

As long as we got each other... We got the world spinning right in our hands baby...

Rain or shine, all the time... We got each other sharing the laughter and love.....

There are some things not even worth fretting over! THIS... HE is one of them.

Live, Laugh and TICKLE
Sunriseticklee


Course if he cheated you out of your money, that's a whole nother issue.... LOL

 

[JoBelle]

I have to add that I'm diggin' what the happy folks here have said.

I saw this site months ago and posted a question about it before realizing who's site it was. It was deleted because the phrasing of my post would have caused flames. Once I realized who wrote the manifesto, it all made sense. 🙄

Some folks are just full of disappointment and have no other way to vent than to publicly insult folks. Granted, even most kids know not to point fingers and say bad things, but there is no telling how we all behave in our less lucid moments. Some of us just have longer spells than others. 😛

I think in the end, most...not all...but MOST folks just want everyone to be happy. Some folks require a lot of affirmation and recognition to achieve happiness while others are fine just tickling like they have all their lives. *GASP* Even before the online world and videos ever existed!

Don't let someone who doesn't even care about you make you fret. Do what I do....

Make a voodoo doll. 😛
Joby...blissin' on ticklin' and not worryin' about the rest!

 

[asutickler]

Did someone say "Voodoo?"

http://www.virtual-design.com/demos/voodoodoll/voodoo.asp?section=demo&subsection=voodoo



ASUTickler



P.S. For some reason, Kujman's "manifesto" reminded me of the little Taco Bell dog, back when he was the charasmatic leader of the "Gordita Revolution," with that little "dictator" beret on his head...

VIVA GORDITAS!!!

 

[JoBelle]

ASU~!!!!

YOU ARE THE KING!

I love that....toooooo funny~! It's been bookmarked and forwarded already!! Thanks for the humor, ticklerfella!

Joby

 

[Phineas]

...what's really sad about this is how he keeps going on and on about how stupid we all are for criticizing his web site. It's been a standard bit of web site design law for years that a site must load quickly. It has nothing to do with people being babies, it's that people expect interactivity and content, not five minutes worth of a loading screen that finally brings you to a site with no content. Tickle Palace fails on every design tenet in the book... and I should know, I've been designing and coding web sites professionally for years. I visited Tickle Palace once. After five full minutes of trying to navigate my way through his cutesy menus to reach a half-page of text on something pointless, I never went back.

That's just the way it is, especially for a "business" site, which I assume the Palace is because he's trying to sell videos. It's just bad sense. And the fact that he thinks the rest of the world is crazy because they won't wait for his greatness, which goes against years of user acceptance testing... well hey, enjoy your low hit counter. 😉

 

[Strelnikov]

Damn! I roasted Kujman pretty good at the time he got the boot as a TMF Mod. Now, reading his rant, I see that I didn't even get Dishonorable Mention out of it. Guess I should have tried harder.

Strelnikov

 

[Cheshire Cat]

Hmmm....

Damn....and I thought I had a tendency to ramble....that killed my buzz...

he works in TV...thats all you need to know...them TV types is crazy...

And how do I know this? I knew him a bit better then most realize....I still agree hes a #$*!#@!~% though... 😛

How about a nice Hawaiian Punch??
Sure!
BAM!!!

 

[dvnc]

All that information in my post, and I realized a failing in it. There was one more simple piece of information that I neglected to mention:
Learn to ignore those who seek to insult you

Like everyone else who has issues with aspects of the TMF, or AMT, or both, etc., the one thing we all can do to diffuse the problem is to refuse to give it attention. As Wallstreet pointed out, he and I are slammed by name. We think it's humorous.

It is.

If you believe in something, there's someone who doesn't believe it. Exceptions to that rule are rare. Do ya believe in our priviledge to post here, with moderation? Post to AMT without such? Either or both are possible and acceptable, in my view. There's two worlds that exist WITHOUT such derision.

Again, it's all your choice.

Still amused that this resurfaced...

dvnc