Tickling should be porn free

[LindyHopper]

I know I would and I think this is a good idea. Keep the banners with the women clothed, but still see if finacial ability keeps it right, okay.

I think it's worth pointing out that whatever content sells is what drives the advertising. I'm not a seller myself, so I don't have actual data on this, but I have a feeling that the people who complain about too much sex in tickling material are a vocal minority. Worse yet, they're a vocal minority that doesn't vote with their dollars - they don't watch clips at all, or don't spend money on them. Thus, their preferences aren't the ones that are going to impact what gets produced, advertised, or sold.

Everyone's free to do what they like. But if you're not happy about what tickling material is out there, spending money on the content you like is the best way to send that message to producers. That's what's going to change the content, and then the advertising. Complaining is just blowing keystrokes.

 

[SlaverTickler]

Formalizing the presentation of this information through icons would be nice. If that's deemed too difficult to implement, we could also create a text form for authors to fill out first-thing on every story they post: Nudity = yes, Teasing = yes, etc. If these were searchable categories, so you could actually filter to include or exclude stories that included adult themes, that would be even better.

Maybe this is worth starting a thread in the Suggestions subforum?

I ain't fillin' out a damn thing. Why should I have to work harder because somebody elts doesn't like sexual content. Let them work harder to avoid it. I mark my stuff in the title (most of the time I have I think). I don't think I should have to click and clack on some form because of someones elts' hang-ups.

 

[Tickle Country]

Our societies openness about sexuality is what makes us great compared to the backasswards Muslims.

I found that to be quite offensive Doctor Kill Bob. I myself am a muslim, or "Mohammoden/dan" as some would venture to call me. I am probably more open minded than you would fare to be yourself. In fact, have you ever met a muslim, or have you ever went to a masjid? If you ever did, you would know that Muslims are far more open minded than you would care to believe, or portray them as. It is deplorable to see that so many people are made to look bad, by the few who make outright fools of themselves. It is even worse when others advertise ignorance as fact. Ignorance is bliss for one but hell for the other.

 

[NavelTickler75]

I'm all for making it easier for people to find what they want, and avoid what they don't. I think most veteran contributors to the story and artwork forums are good about labeling their work, either in the title, or near the start of the posted content. Simply taking the time to read the title and first paragraph takes care of most of what you'd want to know... and if you skipped over that to get to the "good part," you've got no one to blame but yourself. 😉

Formalizing the presentation of this information through icons would be nice. If that's deemed too difficult to implement, we could also create a text form for authors to fill out first-thing on every story they post: Nudity = yes, Teasing = yes, etc. If these were searchable categories, so you could actually filter to include or exclude stories that included adult themes, that would be even better.

Maybe this is worth starting a thread in the Suggestions subforum?

Unlike SlaverTickler, I think this really has merit to this site. Honestly I think the mods and administraters have to walk a very thin line, so as not to go too far one way or the other, as there are many kinds of ticklers out there.

 

[Myriads]

Currently we can barely get people to use M/F, F/M. F/F. M/M etc designations on pictures and clips. Asking for more will produce an even greater patchwork of compliance, and I will not task a staff member to full time editing of thread titles to make them 'click safe' it would be an endless task. Heck we can't even get people to post non-tickling images in the non-tickling forum. I move one or two a week. You can't get much simpler then that break.

The reality of the forum is that people post things based on a desire to share. Often they are so exceited to do this sharing they overlook the standards we request. Some don't know there ARE standards. The majority of posters NEVER read the rules in any section. Basically people tend to do what they want.

The only solution is mods doing the work. And it's not a solution that I have time to task people for. Sorry not happening.

Regarding ads. They help pay for the place. Ads with nudity tend to sell many more clips then those without. Thus advertisers use them. I regret that they bother some folks, but we need them to cover the cost gaps on the considerable expense that this place runs up every month.

We will never move to a pay for content model. That is not what the TMF is about. Such pay-sites tend to not function after a short period. We have no desire to suicide ourselves.

Hope that helps close some of the debate.

Myriads

 

[ShadowTklr]

Tickling is titillating. More often than not, that titillation is sexual in scope. I don't particularly care who admits to it and who doesn't. It's a fact proven time and time again here and everywhere where there is tickling related adult material.

This is an Adult site. The first logical move at the TMF would be to start canning the kids. They're usually pretty easy to spot, as most of their predelictions lean toward power puff girls, harry potter, and children's Anime. By eliminating that ilk, the TMF can go back to what it was from it's inception - an ADULT TICKLING SITE.

As for the rest of this feel-good tickle-for-fun-and-sport mentality, I have less use for it, than they have for the sexual side of tickling. Perhaps if we increase the adult content in this site we can rid ourselves of those who don't like adult content.

 

[NavelTickler75]

Tickling is titillating. More often than not, that titillation is sexual in scope. I don't particularly care who admits to it and who doesn't. It's a fact proven time and time again here and everywhere where there is tickling related adult material.

This is an Adult site. The first logical move at the TMF would be to start canning the kids. They're usually pretty easy to spot, as most of their predelictions lean toward power puff girls, harry potter, and children's Anime. By eliminating that ilk, the TMF can go back to what it was from it's inception - an ADULT TICKLING SITE.

As for the rest of this feel-good tickle-for-fun-and-sport mentality, I have less use for it, than they have for the sexual side of tickling. Perhaps if we increase the adult content in this site we can rid ourselves of those who don't like adult content.

Not funny joke there dude. Where are we non sexual tickling fans supposed to go? This is the largest forum of tickling there is, where most mainstream ticklephiles know where to go. Pushing more sexual tickling to get us to leave the site, is calling us lesser ticklers. Its saying, we've had it with these killjoys. Go back into your holes and let us have our fun.

This forum was built from my understanding so that tickling fans do not HAVE to hide. Am I wrong? Are those who are non sexual tickling wrong?

 

[Redmage]

This forum was built from my understanding so that tickling fans do not HAVE to hide. Am I wrong? Are those who are non sexual tickling wrong?

No, you're not wrong. I think the irritation you're sensing comes from the fact that one is FAR more likely to see a person who likes "non-sexual tickling" complaining about sexual content in a post than one is to see a sexual tickling fan complaining that a post doesn't have enough sexual content. After a while I think some sexual tickling fans get a strong "quitcher bitchin'" 'tude going about this.

Another part of the friction goes straight to your comment about tickling fans needing to hide when outside this forum. I think many people feel that the shyness even "non-sexual" fans have about their interest raises questions about how truly non-sexual their interest really is.

My rule of thumb is: Think about explaining your interest in tickling to your parents or to a young child. If that thought makes you uncomfortable, then you might want to ask yourself if your interest is really completely non-sexual. Issues like these are another source of frustration for those who like sexual tickling, since they make some feel that the motives of the "other side" might not be as pure as they're presented.

I think these factors and others are at the base of any irritation you might be reading when this debate comes up.

 

[NavelTickler75]

No, you're not wrong. I think the irritation you're sensing comes from the fact that one is FAR more likely to see a person who likes "non-sexual tickling" complaining about sexual content in a post than one is to see a sexual tickling fan complaining that a post doesn't have enough sexual content. After a while I think some sexual tickling fans get a strong "quitcher bitchin'" 'tude going about this.

Another part of the friction goes straight to your comment about tickling fans needing to hide when outside this forum. I think many people feel that the shyness even "non-sexual" fans have about their interest raises questions about how truly non-sexual their interest really is.

My rule of thumb is: Think about explaining your interest in tickling to your parents or to a young child. If that thought makes you uncomfortable, then you might want to ask yourself if your interest is really completely non-sexual. Issues like these are another source of frustration for those who like sexual tickling, since they make some feel that the motives of the "other side" might not be as pure as they're presented.

I think these factors and others are at the base of any irritation you might be reading when this debate comes up.

That might well be, I admit I get excited with tickling, BUT I DO NOT WITH NUDE TICKLING. It does nothing for me, andI do not like it. Would I tell the kids who live with me, or my folks about this site, no. The folks would skin me alive, and the kids are much too young for this site.

But as there is no massive tickling site for us non sexual ticklers, what are we to do? Should there be no compromise to make both sides happy?

 

[Redmage]

This may sound like a completely wacky idea 🙂 but there might actually find some people who are sexually stimulated by tickling but still don't want to engage in (or see) explicitly sexual activity with it.

Very possible. But if one does sexualize tickling, then wouldn't one sexualize even non-nude tickling (assuming that those involved were sexually attractive to the person in question)?

The usual complaint one hears in this debate is that all this "porn" is making a "pure" non-sexual interest into something "dirty." See the original post on this thread for an example. I don't think the special case you're raising applies there.

 

[Redmage]

Ah. Sorry. I saw the argument as being, "all this nudity and generous genitalia is icky, and I don't want to see it." 🙂

I reckon you might see that from time to time. But on this thread the complaint is about "porn," which is pretty clearly shorthand for "you got sex in my tickling." After all, you can't have porn without sex.

That's fairly typical for this debate, whenever it comes up.

 

[Redmage]

A dictionary is really all the research you need.

Pornography: the depiction of erotic behavior (as in pictures or writing) intended to cause sexual excitement.

"erotic behavior" and "sexual excitement" pretty much say it all I think. That's what the anti-porn folks are dead-set against in their tickling material.

 

[LindyHopper]

I ain't fillin' out a damn thing. Why should I have to work harder because somebody elts doesn't like sexual content. Let them work harder to avoid it. I mark my stuff in the title (most of the time I have I think). I don't think I should have to click and clack on some form because of someones elts' hang-ups.

Dude, relax already! 🙄 It's not an issue of dealing with "someones elts' hang-ups." Clear labeling benefits everyone, whatever their specific interest. Heck, I'd be using it to avoid those boring stories with no orgasms in them! 😀

Even if Myriads (realistically) feels that a formal system would be impossible to implement, it still makes sense, as a poster, to provide the viewer adequate information about the content of the post. That means that the people who view it and comment are the ones who wanted to see it.

That might well be, I admit I get excited with tickling, BUT I DO NOT WITH NUDE TICKLING. It does nothing for me, andI do not like it....

But as there is no massive tickling site for us non sexual ticklers, what are we to do? Should there be no compromise to make both sides happy?

You're acting like this site is designed to exclude you. It's not. There's sexual tickling content here, and non-sexual content too, and everyone is free to look at whatever they like. That is the compromise. You're asking for restrictions on sexual content, so that you don't have to see things that you don't like. That's a request that the forum cater to your personal tastes - it's hardly a compromise.

None of us like everything that we see on this forum. Your personal discomfort with some of this site's content is hardly unique, and expecting special treatment for it is unrealistic.

 

[simulated]

That might well be, I admit I get excited with tickling, BUT I DO NOT WITH NUDE TICKLING. It does nothing for me, andI do not like it. Would I tell the kids who live with me, or my folks about this site, no. The folks would skin me alive, and the kids are much too young for this site.

But as there is no massive tickling site for us non sexual ticklers, what are we to do? Should there be no compromise to make both sides happy?

So you're saying that tickling can be sexual, but the moment clothes come off all that goes away?

And you keep on referring to "us non-sexual ticklers." I'm genuinely curious as to what would draw someone with a completely non sexual view of the activity to a forum such as this. I'd wager 95% of the traffic through this site is purely for wanking material, with the rest being people looking for affirmation that their desires are normal, along with active community members and the like.

There are many, many fetishised activities that I enjoy. Nothing can beat a good sneeze at the right moment, and I wager you'd be hard pressed to find someone who doesn't enjoy a massage.

However, I don't go and seek out websites devoted to these interests because, well, I don't fetishise them.

So yea, I can understand that you don't enjoy watching clips with nudity in them, for whatever reason. I tend to get off on tickling, I'm in no place to judge here. However, to be fiercly embracing the point that you don't like nudity in tickling videos because you only enjoy tickling with zero sexual content whatsoever and you have a thousand posts on a tickling community board because you enjoy the decor and its just a fun thing that you share with friends and no you don't get turned on because its non sexual, well... it seems the sooner you accept that there's something there and come to terms with it, the better.

 

[ShadowTklr]

I think those that are complaining are forgetting what the real purpose of the TMF was supposed to be -a place where like-minded people can come to share ideas, material, stories, etc. Now, if those "Like-minded" people are sharing predominanty sexually-related tickling material, then I guess that's the area of their taste. If you don't wish to see these things, then simply don't click on them. If you do click on something that is not properly labeled, and you become so offended by the sight of it that you are spurred to write a complaining thread, then immediately close that window or clip player software, run to the nearest bathroom, and run your eyes under scalding hot water to "unsee" those nasty images.

If you don't understand that tickling is a FETISH, then you are either too chronologically immature, or too psychologically immature. Either way, you DON'T BELONG ON AN ADULT SITE!!!!!

The term "Adult" infers that there will be material presented that is inappropriate for children, or anyone who may be easily offended by Adult content.

Where are you supposed to go, you ask? Gee, I don't know. Perhaps you should start your very own non-adult oriented tickling site, where tickling is all about the things YOU think it should be about. Jeff started this site because WE had nowhere to go. Take a page out of his notebook, stop pissing and moaning, and go start your own empire.

 

[ShadowTklr]

A dictionary is really all the research you need.

Pornography: the depiction of erotic behavior (as in pictures or writing) intended to cause sexual excitement.

"erotic behavior" and "sexual excitement" pretty much say it all I think. That's what the anti-porn folks are dead-set against in their tickling material.

Red, you are my hero. You have a lot more patience for this bullshit than I. I think back to a time when I was a teenager with nowhere to turn for tickling related material, and no one to talk to. There was no such thing as the internet, or tickle clips or anything like that. That's the generation of people who began this community.

This new spawn of whiner which has emerged from the spoils of people who actually DID something makes me want to puke. They come into an established community and complain about the very content which created it. They have no appreciation, nor desire to appreciate the amount of time and effort that went into making this what it is.

 

[NavelTickler75]

Ah. Sorry. I saw the argument as being, "all this nudity and generous genitalia is icky, and I don't want to see it." 🙂

Ding ding ding, we have ourselves a winner! This is how I and a few others I have spoken too think.

 

[NavelTickler75]

If you don't understand that tickling is a FETISH, then you are either too chronologically immature, or too psychologically immature. Either way, you DON'T BELONG ON AN ADULT SITE!!!!!

I know what a FETISH is, and yes I get turned on by tickling. I am also NOT the only one here who does not like the nudity. I have been pmed a lot by people saying how much they agree with me. Just because it is ADULT does not mean absolutely NUDE. Bondage is ADULT. There need not be nudity to make it less Adult. AND NO BODY WHO CAN NOT STAND TO HEAR MY POINT OF VIEW AND GET LESS OF A BONER BECAUSE OF IT IS GOING TO TELL ME WHERE I CAN AND CAN NOT GO.

The term "Adult" infers that there will be material presented that is inappropriate for children, or anyone who may be easily offended by Adult content.

NO???!!!!! REALLY I HAD NO IDEA!!!! Does not mean we should just shut up by what we do not like.

Where are you supposed to go, you ask? Gee, I don't know. Perhaps you should start your very own non-adult oriented tickling site, where tickling is all about the things YOU think it should be about. Jeff started this site because WE had nowhere to go. Take a page out of his notebook, stop pissing and moaning, and go start your own empire.

IF I knew how to, I MIGHT. But I do not KNOW how to create a forum. AND IF I DID create one. It would still have the bondage for those who like it, just NOT THE SEXUAL TICKLING OF NIPPLES, BREASTS, BUTTS, VAGINAS, PENIS, ETC. And yes there would be a section seperating that with the absoultely pure fun version of it two, I'd have two version, two main mini forums in it, but I DO NOT KNOW HOW TO CREATE A FORUM.

AGAIN, YOU DO NOT LIKE ME TALKING, TOO BAD I AIN'T A GOIN' NO WHERE. PUT ME ON YOUR IGNORE LIST AND BE DONE WITH IT.

 

[Redmage]

Ding ding ding, we have ourselves a winner! This is how I and a few others I have spoken too think.

If that's how you think, then you should reword your arguments. Because what you (that is, most of the anti-porn folks on this thread and elsewhere) have actually said is that you dislike "pornographic" tickling material. See the definition I posted above: that means that what you dislike is anything that suggests eroticism or sexuality.

 

[ShadowTklr]

"all this nudity and generous genitalia is icky, and I don't want to see it."

Ding ding ding, we have ourselves a winner! This is how I and a few others I have spoken too think.

I was going to respond to your response to me, but this really sizes up what I was talking about. I was obviously correct when I paraphrased your intention as above.

So, it's okay for you to rally against the things I and most of us like, but it's NOT okay for me to rally against your opinion? I'm confused.

TMF is not Public Radio, or the Children's Television Workshop, Pal. This is a privately funded forum that caters to a concept - not even a genre. In other words, no one is saying that you shouldn't produce whatever "fun" tickling material you want, and share it with everyone. On the contrary; the purpose of this forum is to ENCOURAGE you to do just that.

However, that's not good enough for you. No. You want everyone ELSE to go away, or at least stop exposing you to that "icky" nudity so that the forum will cease to be of value to anyone but YOU and the other 50 out of 30,000 subscribers here who happen to agree with you. If you don't see the hypocrisy in that, then please read the above 2 paragraphs to someone who has already bought a clue.

In the meantime, I see no reason whatsoever why you should be offended by my retort when I suggest you build your own forum. Most of the information you require is available for FREE on the internet. Study hard, gather up the "fun" crowd who are so inexplicably repulsed by nudity and porn, and lead them to the new world - YOUR world. Because, aside from you doing that, things here are not going to change the way you want them to.

 

[isabeau]

It's rather funny, but until someone mentioned the nudity in the banners up above, i never even gave those a second glance..nor do i even pay attention to the live camgirl pictures that flash by really fast at the left side of the site..i go with the idea that if you don't want to watch it, don't click on it, but don't spoil it for everyone else..Most clips have a warning that say contain nudity or whatnot, so you are warned beforehand not to open that clip, if nudity of any sort offends you..

p.s. Shadowtklr you're my hero...

 

[smoothacer409]

Yes

I'm so glad that all these people feel the same way... i got a clip about a month ago(no naming names here) and it was advertised as 5 min. of tickling...well believe you me it was about 2.5 minuttes of the same tickling scene just shot at different angles and the last 2.5 was forced orgasm...i was like wtf

 

[NavelTickler75]

I was going to respond to your response to me, but this really sizes up what I was talking about. I was obviously correct when I paraphrased your intention as above.

So, it's okay for you to rally against the things I and most of us like, but it's NOT okay for me to rally against your opinion? I'm confused.

TMF is not Public Radio, or the Children's Television Workshop, Pal. This is a privately funded forum that caters to a concept - not even a genre. In other words, no one is saying that you shouldn't produce whatever "fun" tickling material you want, and share it with everyone. On the contrary; the purpose of this forum is to ENCOURAGE you to do just that.

However, that's not good enough for you. No. You want everyone ELSE to go away, or at least stop exposing you to that "icky" nudity so that the forum will cease to be of value to anyone but YOU and the other 50 out of 30,000 subscribers here who happen to agree with you. If you don't see the hypocrisy in that, then please read the above 2 paragraphs to someone who has already bought a clue.

In the meantime, I see no reason whatsoever why you should be offended by my retort when I suggest you build your own forum. Most of the information you require is available for FREE on the internet. Study hard, gather up the "fun" crowd who are so inexplicably repulsed by nudity and porn, and lead them to the new world - YOUR world. Because, aside from you doing that, things here are not going to change the way you want them to.

I never said I wanted everything or everyone ELSE to go away. You are the one who said the site should push the nudity to push US away, that is what pissed me off. Again I NEVER SAID YOU ALL SHOULD LEAVE. I NEVER SAID NUDE PICS SHOULD NOT BE HERE, NOR REMOVED. What I had issues with is because there were clearly other tickling companies that had not had tickling with nudity that could put up banners here. Why not try it for a month and see what happens? Personally I do not even look at the banners when I try. I turn my eyes. AGAIN WHAT PISSED ME OFF WAS YOU TRYING TO PUSH US OUT BECAUSE WE WERE SAYING WORDS YOU DID NOT LIKE. MAYBE WORDS THAT HELPED YOU GET LESS A BONER I DON'T KNOW. So let's just shove the killjoys out of the place.

The other reason I thought the pics and films should be blocked, is because with so many young kids coming in here, who are not eighteen, and possibly as young as fourteen, fifteen, do you really want them seeing this shit? I do not. Now yes there is a warning, but you think they will listen? No. Fault of the site? No not completely. It COULD possibly do other things that would make them go away, but so far are not.

I am computer Illiterate. I can not block this because I use Windows Internet Explore for my internet, which is free for me. Why it is free I do not know. I HAVE TRIED TO CREATE A FORUM TWICE, AND FAILED. I tried to create a web site and failed. So for me to create something like that, it can not be.

If I do not like something, and see it has content I do not like, I don't click on it. My problem is the banners. T... H... E... B...A...N...N...E...R...S... and yes I know they are necessary to keep the forum free. But again I will say again why NOT try clothed tickling and see what happens in them? Or tickling from one of the tickle comics? I have no problems seeing them.

 

[NavelTickler75]

It's rather funny, but until someone mentioned the nudity in the banners up above, i never even gave those a second glance..nor do i even pay attention to the live camgirl pictures that flash by really fast at the left side of the site..i go with the idea that if you don't want to watch it, don't click on it, but don't spoil it for everyone else..Most clips have a warning that say contain nudity or whatnot, so you are warned beforehand not to open that clip, if nudity of any sort offends you..

p.s. Shadowtklr you're my hero...

Again I have no probs with the videos, I usually do not go there anyway. It was with the banners.

And he wants to push people like me out of the site and he's your hero?! Wow.

 

[NavelTickler75]

I'm so glad that all these people feel the same way... i got a clip about a month ago(no naming names here) and it was advertised as 5 min. of tickling...well believe you me it was about 2.5 minuttes of the same tickling scene just shot at different angles and the last 2.5 was forced orgasm...i was like wtf

That is part of what I mean, although I do not buy the clips or videos and never will. I just do not like seeing nudity. Breasts, vaginas, penis, etc. I don't like it. It ruins tickling for me.