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Was spiderman 3 as bad as critics made it out to be? lol

DianaBanana88

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I watched it last night outta bordom but I didnt think it was thaaaaat bad haha. I know some people flat out hated the ending and liked the beginning. Anyone else feel that way? I just didnt like the emo peter parker with the hair hanging over his eye and shit lol Was it bad/decent/good? :idunno:
 
The personality of Peter was rather annoying. But, the action more than made up for it. I gave it a thumbs up.
 
Hmmm, yeah I guess there were quite a few people who disliked Spider-Man 3, but I actually enjoyed the movie. Sure there were a few cheesy parts, but the good definitely outweighed the bad for me.

Personally, I'd rank Spider-Man 3 above either of the Fantastic Four movies and the Hulk movie from 2003. I know that's not saying much, but still.
 
The biggest problem with Spiderman 3, Diana, was that it was a movie the director didn't want to make.

Sam Raimi liked the old school villians - Dr. Octopus, Green Goblin, Sandman, Electro, The Vulture, Lizard.
He openly said way before Spiderman 3, he HATED Venom, and Carnage and the newer villains.

But Venom was always a popular newer villain, so the studio MADE him put Venom in there, because fans were clamoring for him for three movies.

There is even pre-production art of The Vulture who as going to be played by John Malkovich or Ben Kingsley, on top of a prison with Sandman about to escape.

The studio said "Hell no you ain't putting "The Vulture" in there!"

Sam had to cave, and he put Venom, and now we see the great experiment/example of a director, being forced to put in a major character, whom he HATES.

Sandman's character was far more fleshed out than Venom's.

Comic Eddie Brock was a weight lifter/reporter obsessed with hatred for Spiderman.
Movie Eddie was a skinny dude with a little muscle who hated Spiderman.

The black symbiote which becomes Venom had a long history in the comics before it got to Brock.
In the movie.....it just lands next to Peter's bike.

Sandman has a fully fleshed out character arc, many close-ups, and has a lot of screen time, as were the previous villains.
Venom has very little screen time as Eddie Brock, and even less as Venom.

Notice how Venom has very, very few close-ups, or even any shots as all.
We rarely get a good look at him, and notice his death - Green Goblin returned in every movie! Doc Octopus dies a hero, and slowly sinks deeper, leaving the slim possibility he could return. Sandman drifts away in the wind, probably a good guy.

Venom....gets utterly, completely vaporized, ....every, fucking atom!!

It was probably Raimi's way of saying "Not only will I incenerate this asshole, he ain't EVERRRRRR coming back in a movie I make!!"

So he writes Spiderman 4, and lo and behold, who shows up - The Vulture!
Again, cast as John Malkovich!

Studio said "Hell no! Again!"
Sam says "Hell yes, this time, buddy! (As he so fondly calls everyone!)"

So they fire him or he quits, and they reboot the entire franchise, since all his people said if Sam leaves, we're all leaving......

But since I can, as they say, "Turn my brain off in a movie," I enjoyed most of it.

Heck, I saw "The Box," recently, which critics hated, and I rather enjoyed it.....

It all depends on what you like!

......but "Drive Angry 3D" was the most entertaining movie this year!!!
 
and they reboot the entire franchise

With a sh*tty version of the Spidey costume, no less. (If they were gonna go with THAT thing, they should've just done a Spider-Man Unlimited movie...that's what the costume looks closer to. )

And now X-Men is getting sh*t on with First Ass..er, Class. Not gonna see it after reading the comment "Twilight fans will like it" ..and yes, that was from the people MAKING the movie. (excuse me for a moment while I go puke...)
 
Yeah well hollywood seems to be nothing but remakes and sequels anymore haha. Saw 8 is being considered even though 7 was "the final chapter" its like whyyyyyy lol. I prefer iron man and I thought sin city was just great. And hulk 03 was sooooooooo bad and the fantastic 4 movies put me to sleep lol
 
Saw was good for the first two movies. After that it was like watching the 80's, Clue, with 20 different, "this is how it really happened..."
 
For what the movie WAS, it wasn't bad.

For what people WANTED it to be, it was terrible.
 
For what the movie WAS, it wasn't bad.

For what people WANTED it to be, it was terrible.

Second. It was a very busy film, in terms of plotlines. A lot to conclude in a runtime of two hours. And the pacing suffers because of that. But certainly not a bad film.

And the trailers … talk about hype. Venom, Venom, Venom. But they did their job.
 
Except for one or two small issues, I loved Spider-Man 3.
Sandman's character was far more fleshed out than Venom's.
Good point. But if you ask me, that character was as far off from the comics as Topher Grace's Venom. About the only thing they got right was the green-striped Wally Cleaver shirt. Also, I can't help it. I look at Thomas Hayden-Church and I don't see Flint Marko. I see Lowell Mather.

Making Sandman Uncle Ben's murderer, and then Peter having that "moment" with him at the end. That was a glaring case of "okay, pay attention boys and girls. Here's our SOCIAL STATEMENT!" :xlime:

Comic Flint Marko was an irritable sonofabitch who never showed any humanity in the comics until after he and Hydro-man fought Spider-Man together, collided with each other and merged to form some mindless mud monster. I don't quite remember how they separated back to their original personas, but the experience totally unnerved Sandman.

The next time I saw Sandman was in Marvel Two In One - The Thing and Sandman. Marko is seperated from Hydroman but he's only operating at about 50% efficiency as he stumbles into a bar on Yancy Street. The bartender recognizes him which wasn't difficult given the token green-striped shirt and all the sand on the floor. Bartender calls the Baxter Building. Moments later, Ben shows up spoiling for a fight.

"Forget it, Thing," Marko said wearily. "I'm in no shape to tangle with you. I'll go quietly."

"What?? Ya mean we're not gonna spend the next twenty minutes bashin each others brains out?? What gives?!"

The two end up having a beer together in the bar during which Marko tells his life story, and Ben ends up walking out and letting him off the hook.

The black symbiote which becomes Venom had a long history in the comics before it got to Brock.
In the movie.....it just lands next to Peter's bike.

Another good point. If I remember correctly, it all started with a 12-issue limited series written by editor-in-chief Jim Shooter called The Secret Wars. A host of Marvel heroes and a host of Marvel villains are all transported to some unknown planet by a near-omnipotent entity who claimed to be "from beyond." This being (subsequently referered to as "The Beyonder") wanted to study the concept of conflict.

During the cataclysmic fights that ensued, Spider-Man's costume got trashed, and Captain America's shield was broken. The two found some alien technology there on the planet that allowed Cap to repair (or replace, I don't remember exactly which) his shield, and enabled Spider-Man to replace his costume. The new costume however was mostly all black with a white spider on the front, a radical departure from the traditional red and blue, but quite cool nonetheless. A big plus about the new costume was that it could generate it's own web. Spider-Man no longer needed his mechanical web-shooters.

After the Secret Wars and all were returned to earth, Spider-Man discovered another very convenient property of his new black costume. It would morph and dissolve into street clothes whenever Spider-Man wanted to change back to Peter Parker. It seemed too good to be true, and since Peter Parker is a magnet for tragedy and bad luck, it was.

After a few months, Parker began to show signs of exhaustion, due to somnambulism. Shortly after falling asleep, the costume would envelope Parker. He'd hit the city and web-sling all night long in the black costume until dawn, then return to bed and shortly wake up, having no recollection of the night's activities.

Parker ultimately figured out it was the costume doing this to him so he went to the Baxter Building to consult with Reed Richards. Richards performed some tests and concluded that the costume was alive, and had a symbiotic connection to Parker. They contained the costume in an airtight plexiglass cylinder, and that was that. Parker went back to the red and blue costume while the spurned symbiont stewed with rage.

Ultimately, the symbiont escaped somehow (something to do with Franklin Richards) and wandered the streets until it found somebody who hated Spider-Man as much as it did. Eddie Brock was huge, and a weight lifter. A former reporter for The Daily Globe who was fired over a story he did on some douchebag villain from the "Peter Parker The Spectacular Spider-Man" series called the Sin Eater.

That's a lot of history to try and cram into a movie, so from a production standpoint, I can see the value in settling for the "blob out of the meteor" bit.
 
When I heard how bad Spiderman 3 was it actually made me watch it more (as I like watching bad movies) but much to my dismay, it was an okay movie. i didn't see what was so bad about it compared to the other two spiderman movies.

Was it the overacting? Both of the other movies had a lot of that.

But I think people just hated it because of that one dance scene with "emo Peter" and the fact that we only saw Venom for like 10 minutes.
 
It was just ok.

I don't get the ass-searing indignation for "the flag scene" in it though.
 
They contained the costume in an airtight plexiglass cylinder, and that was that. Parker went back to the red and blue costume while the spurned symbiont stewed with rage.

Ultimately, the symbiont escaped somehow (something to do with Franklin Richards) and wandered the streets until it found somebody who hated Spider-Man as much as it did.

Actually, didn't the symbiote try to take over Peter again after it escaped the container(and before it found Eddie), and he had to use the sound from a church's bells to get rid of it that time? I think I remember that happening in the comics, though I'm not sure.
 
Actually, didn't the symbiote try to take over Peter again after it escaped the container(and before it found Eddie), and he had to use the sound from a church's bells to get rid of it that time? I think I remember that happening in the comics, though I'm not sure.

Also known as Web of Spider-Man #1 :

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I enjoyed Spider-man 3 and didn't find it as bad as many critics felt it was. I will admit though, that they rushed the whole Venom thing. I have no problems how they introduced the symbiot, but i admit i wasn't a big fan of how they chose to use Topher Grace as venom. However, i think they were going for more the "Ultimate" version of venom instead of the mainstreme version. They shouldn't have done this, and should have allowed for venom to become the enemy for the next movie. It could have been very good, with a charactor who knew that Peter was spider-man from the beginning, stalking him, terrorizing him, and kicking his ass periodically until the end. Remember, venom didn't just want peter to die, but to make him suffer. Venom would have beaten peter within an inch of his life, and then let him live, to terrorize him more and let him wallow in his helplessness. That would have been the way to do things. Sadly, they decided to rush things.
 
I liked the movie, but it could have been better like others have said.

I was a supporter for Venom and was disappointed at how poorly he was used.
 
Also known as Web of Spider-Man #1 :
Hah. Yeah, I forgot all about Web of Spider-Man. At the time there were already four monthly Spider-Man titles:

1. Amazing Spider-Man - The original monthly series that started in the early 60s

2. Peter Parker The Spectacular Spider-Man - A newer series that started in the 70s.

3. Marvel Tales, featuring Spider-Man - reprints of old Amazing Spider-Man.

4. Marvel Team-up featuring Spider-Man and _________(different guest hero each month).

As I recall, Team-up was the lamest of the four series (one issue actually teamed Spidey up with Howard The Duck), and so they ultimately dropped the monthly partnerships and created a new series, Web of Spider-Man.

MarvelTeam-Up096.jpg
 
... and so they ultimately dropped the monthly partnerships and created a new series, Web of Spider-Man.

That is correct.

Marvel Team-Up ended w/issue #150 in February of 1985 & Web of Spider-Man was launched a couple months later in April that same year.
 
Did anybody like the 1970's version? With Nicholas Hammond as Peter Parker/Spiderman?

Tobey Maguire has nothing too offer...

Just like Eric Bana and Edward Norton can't touch Bill Bixby as "The Hulk" Banner!!!
 
They basically shat upon the source material, that's why I hated it. They wrecked the Harry Osborn version of the Green Goblin, fouled the entire concept of Venom pretty much from the ground up, and made Gwen Stacy into some kind of freakin' cameo also-ran. What makes it worse is that anyone who has seen Spiderman 1 and 2 knows that Sam Raimi should have known better.

YUCK.
 
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