What DON'T you like about M/M tickling? (a discussion)

[Haribo!.]

i havent seen any but i am certain i wouldnt enjoy it for the same reason i have for real life situations, i wouldnt tickle another guy and am very uncomfortable being tickled by other guys too, its happend once or twice and i dont like it at all! so because i dont enjoy either of those situations i see no way i could ever enjoy watching it! i dont think its gay as im sure two guys can do it for abit of fun but for me its a sexual thing that i would only share with a girl, i dont watch f/m or m/f clips anymore anyway but when i did it was allways so i could picture myself in the mans shoes weather he was giving or reciving so adding another man would have allways ruined it for me!

 

[tickler_n_black]

Except that it isn't a discussion. It's a mutual congratulation session.

Call it what you want, the fact remains that this thread was created for people who DON'T like m/m tickling to tell us why they feel that way. They shouldn't be attacked by "politically correct" or by actual gay men that are angry we dare say we don't like it.

Why does it bother you SO much that there is ONE thread on the entire TMF where people who don't like m/m can voice reasons why? You don't want their opinions heard? They don't deserve an opinion if it's not in line with everyone elses?

How does this thread adversly affect your day to day life? Ask yourself "why can't I just stay out of that thread? Why do I have to keep going in their and arguing?"

Seriously my friend. Can't you just walk on by?
🙂

 

[tricham]

Amen

Call it what you want, the fact remains that this thread was created for people who DON'T like m/m tickling to tell us why they feel that way. They shouldn't be attacked by "politically correct" or by actual gay men that are angry we dare say we don't like it.

Why does it bother you SO much that there is ONE thread on the entire TMF where people who don't like m/m can voice reasons why? You don't want their opinions heard? They don't deserve an opinion if it's not in line with everyone elses?

How does this thread adversly affect your day to day life? Ask yourself "why can't I just stay out of that thread? Why do I have to keep going in their and arguing?"

Seriously my friend. Can't you just walk on by?
🙂

Exactly, they are entitled to a forum in favor of, others against.

 

[PainTrain]

or by actual gay men that are angry we dare say we don't like it.

Once again, please direct me to where I ever stated opposition, to anyone expressing their opinion about disliking m/m tickling in this thread.

 

[Redmage]

Why does it bother you SO much that there is ONE thread on the entire TMF where people who don't like m/m can voice reasons why? You don't want their opinions heard? They don't deserve an opinion if it's not in line with everyone elses?

Odd, I don't recall ever saying anything of the kind. Does reading an opposing opinion somehow prevent you from expressing yours? Obviously, this isn't a problem I can easily understand, since if I were the same way I would be prevented from participating here. Why does it bother you SO much when someone disagrees with you about this?

For that matter, I haven't seen anyone saying that you ought to like M/M tickling. I have seen people object to the gross generalizations and steretypes you use to justify your dislike of it, however. That, to my way of thinking, is simply correcting falsehoods. You're still welcome to your dislike, regardless.

 

[simulated]

Oh yea, TIB, something else that threw me off here was the thread title

What DON'T you like about M/M tickling? (a discussion)

'Discussion' seems to imply that we should be discussing our views about M/M tickling. I was thrown off by this part of the title, perhaps you'd like to change it?

What DON'T you like about M/M tickling? (a massive circlejerk)

On second thought, thats probably a bit queer for your tastes...

 

[tricham]

I think you have an intellegent point of view TIB

Yeah, that's right. This thread was intended for people to tell us why they DON'T like m/m tickling.

There are a couple other threads that were created on this same forum that ask why people DO like m/m tickling... and I have no posts in those threads because I've learned its best to stay on topic of what the post is intended for, whether you like the thread's topic or not.

If a person see's that a post is asking clearly for comments on "why they DON'T" and they still proceed to use that thread to tell "why they DO" then that person is hijacking the thread. This thread is NOT for people who love m/m tickling and who want to promote it. It is for those who want to express why they don't like it. There is nothing wrong with such a discussion. So, please share with us why you DON'T like m/m tickling. Thanks. 🙂

& I hope my point of view didn't bring unfair bullying your way. As I said before & i'll say again I've never known you to be anything but a gentlemen. I guess the simplist answer to your question is in the question. I dont like seeing 2 Men because it's 2 men. anyway keep up the quality F/F excellent work you always produce & lets see some mature ladies. They dont have be especially good looking just especially ticklish.

 

[Myriads]

Stay on topic.

If you want to debate the points raised here in this thread then open a new one via copying the post you want to reply to and debate there.

The OP clearly wants a very narrow set of responses for the thread and wishes no debate in this thread. He seems to desire discusion simply on why a poster may not like M/M videos.

Myriads

 

[Tamia78]

Hang on......

No, but seriously now, Gremio and Bagelperson... this thread was created for people who do NOT like m/m tickling videos to express why they do NOT like m/m tickling videos.

Did you start posting on this thread because you want to tell us why you DON'T like m/m tickling videos?

If you didn't come here to tell us why you don't like m/m tickling videos, then.... why are you on this thread at all? (that was clearly labeled in the first post)

Thanks.
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Waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaait a minute here!

I think I've heard this before.......

The M/M thread that started THIS particular thread had posters (you being one of them, I might add) who DID NOT like M/M tickling feeling the need to post on why they didn't like it, even though the thread was CLEARLY labeled "The HOTTEST M/M video...yada,yada" which would lead me to believe that it was for those who liked M/M.

That means that there shouldn't be anything wrong with those who like M/M posting on this thread...........or do we have hypocrites in our midst? The title of this thread does say that it is a discussion. So, let's discuss.

Just my opinion,

--T

 

[Myriads]

The video thread was a content thread and all the stuff there was off topic.

This thread is a discussion thread, and it's OP has asked for it to be focused in a certain way. Please respect that and stay on the OP's topic.

There were several other threads opened at the same time as this to cover aspects that spun off this thread. OR start one of your own to continue the off topic (for this thread) discussion in.

This thread is a narrowly defined discussion thread. Stay on the topic.

Myriads

 

[Nylon tickler]

I am honest.

This does not turn me on if a men tickle a men. On women looks it better when they wearing nylons! I find the laugh from Women more nicely and the feet looks much more better as by a men!

This is my opinion

 

[Iggy pop]

LOL!
I couldn't resist. It's true. I've run across video descriptions like that. Outright lies. It doesn't say "the fake scenario of this clip is..... and both participants are actually flaming with gayness in their personal lives"

It flat out says as truth "straight fireman bla bla bla" or worse yet "straight 18 year old boy agrees to be tied up, tickled, and balls sucked by 50 year old Mark."

Haha, this is simply a gay producer fantasizing about turning straight men gay. Good luck with that mister "producer."

Is this a problem you have with m/m clips? Because they do the same thing with all type of clips. If the problem, is that you have a 50 year old tickling an 18 year old then do you have problem with m/f clips with 50 year olds tickling 18 year olds. If your problem is the fantasy aspect of it and the fact that they do not come out say it is scenario then do criticize f/m and f/f clips that do not come straigt out and say this is a fantasy and a false scenario. Becuase not all */f come out say that this is a fantasy. They state as fact that people tickled to extremes for treatments for depression, that women are tickled for not paying the rent, women are tickled for borrowing another women's shoes without asking,and the mayor's daughter gets kidnapped and tickled. These are totally fantasy scenarios and do not happen in real life, but the producers do not always come out and say these are fantasies. They state them as if they were truth. So are you against this practice in general, or just against m/m using this practice?

 

[tickler_n_black]

Is this a problem you have with m/m clips? Because they do the same thing with all type of clips. If the problem, is that you have a 50 year old tickling an 18 year old then do you have problem with m/f clips with 50 year olds tickling 18 year olds. If your problem is the fantasy aspect of it and the fact that they do not come out say it is scenario then do criticize f/m and f/f clips that do not come straigt out and say this is a fantasy and a false scenario. Becuase not all */f come out say that this is a fantasy. They state as fact that people tickled to extremes for treatments for depression, that women are tickled for not paying the rent, women are tickled for borrowing another women's shoes without asking,and the mayor's daughter gets kidnapped and tickled. These are totally fantasy scenarios and do not happen in real life, but the producers do not always come out and say these are fantasies. They state them as if they were truth. So are you against this practice in general, or just against m/m using this practice?

I see your point, and understand where you're coming from, but to me, in my opinion, it's plenty obvious to anyone with a brain that "the mayor's daughter kidnapped and tickled by Priscilla James" is so outright obviously a fantasy theme... verses "my straight auto mechanic lets me (the gay producer) tie him up and tickle his dick and balls" ...

That wasn't word for word, but it IS actually a closely followed description of a m/m tickling clip that I had the unpleasant fortune of running across.

If you can't see the difference in those two then discussing it any further is futile. Now why do you suppose the gay producer felt he HAD to use the word "straight?" Because that is a huge fantasy of nearly all gay men (from what I hear) ... to turn the straight man gay or to have an encounter with a straight guy. It's apparantly the gold medal of all that can be achieved.

For the record, I also think f/f descriptions like "she ate the last peice of cake so i'm tying and tickling her" is just plain stupid.

What's next? "Mary tickle tortures Julie because she did an illegal U-turn?"

Producers should not insult the fine viewers inteligence with crap like that. Thinking up a fantasy scenario that is a bit more "reasonable" doesn't take that much effort.
🙂

 

[tickler_n_black]

Oh and Iggy Pop, I'm not being sarcastic when I ask this. Call me "out of the loop" for not knowing but what is that thing in your profile picture? Seriously I don't know, is it male or female? And what is wrong with it's legs to upper body size ratio?

 

[isabeau]

Oh and Iggy Pop, I'm not being sarcastic when I ask this. Call me "out of the loop" for not knowing but what is that thing in your profile picture? Seriously I don't know, is it male or female? And what is wrong with it's legs to upper body size ratio?

i can answer that...it's Iggy Pop the singer...and it is male..and the legs look that way because the singer is kneeling..

 

[tickler_n_black]

The M/M thread that started THIS particular thread had posters (you being one of them, I might add) who DID NOT like M/M tickling feeling the need to post on why they didn't like it, even though the thread was CLEARLY labeled "The HOTTEST M/M video...yada,yada"

You have a nice point.
I'm not going to try and tell you I didn't post on the thread. I did.
And you know what? The moderators deleted all posts that they found to be NOT on topic in that thread, including my posts.

I learned and agreed that it wasn't right of me to post my opinion on that particular thread, and STOPPED doing it immediately. Then I started this thread that is SUPPOSED to be ONLY for those the DON'T like m/m clips.

The "discussion" is SUPPOSED to be between all of those who DON'T like m/m clips. (not between those who do and those who don't).

So please, since you are on this thread and wanting to post here. Please tell us what you DON'T like about m/m tickling. Otherwise, you really should follow the rules and go to another thread that has been creatd for what you want to discuss. 🙂 Thanks for listening.

 

[tickler_n_black]

Oh yea, TIB, 'Discussion' seems to imply that we should be discussing our views about M/M tickling..

True, that might throw people off for a moment (and if i could change the title now i would, but it is not allowed by the software, after a certain amount of time goes by) ... BUT you must admit that the opening post in this thread (mine) makes it undoubtedly clear about who and what the thread is looking for? 😉

And hey man, if the moderators are going to let you use the disgusting term "circle jerk" to insult me and other posters on this thread, then it's only fair that I'm allowed to use it too.

The term & action you know as 'circle jerk' was created by 10 men in San Francisco (through trial and error) at a slumber party in 1985. At least that's what I've heard.

NOW please stay on topic, or create your own thread. Thanks. 🙂

 

[Iggy pop]

I see your point, and understand where you're coming from, but to me, in my opinion, it's plenty obvious to anyone with a brain that "the mayor's daughter kidnapped and tickled by Priscilla James" is so outright obviously a fantasy theme... verses "my straight auto mechanic lets me (the gay producer) tie him up and tickle his dick and balls" ...

Personally from my view point both are pretty far fetched. I would automatically assume both are fantasy. If an auto mechanic is letting a guy tickle his dick and balls then he is not straight or else he is getting paid a decent amount of money. In any case, it is not something he would ordinarily would do.

If you can't see the difference in those two then discussing it any further is futile. Now why do you suppose the gay producer felt he HAD to use the word "straight?" Because that is a huge fantasy of nearly all gay men (from what I hear) ... to turn the straight man gay or to have an encounter with a straight guy. It's apparantly the gold medal of all that can be achieved....

Yes I think it is common fantasy among gay men to have an encounter with a straight guy or turn him gay. From what I understand, the fanatasy stems from the fact that for most gay men their first crush happened to be straight guy. Is this wrong? Hell if I know. In the tickling community, there is the common fantasy on non-consensual tickling. Is that wrong? I don't know.

For the record, I also think f/f descriptions like "she ate the last peice of cake so i'm tying and tickling her" is just plain stupid.

What's next? "Mary tickle tortures Julie because she did an illegal U-turn?"

Producers should not insult the fine viewers inteligence with crap like that. Thinking up a fantasy scenario that is a bit more "reasonable" doesn't take that much effort.
🙂

I agree with you here. You know I have seen a lot of good clips with good tickling, but the scenario was so stupid, it took something away from what should have been an excellent clip. Personally, I prefer my clips not have scenarios, but I think I am in the minority. Anyway I'm drifting completely off topic, so I'll stop here.

 

[Iggy pop]

i can answer that...it's Iggy Pop the singer...and it is male..and the legs look that way because the singer is kneeling..

What she said.

 

[Haribo!.]

ummmm, well i posted my opinions on topic a page ago and was hopeing to discuss them, is it worth labeling this thread as one for people that like to disagree with eachother over and over again cause thats all i can see really...

 

[simulated]

And hey man, if the moderators are going to let you use the disgusting term "circle jerk" to insult me and other posters on this thread, then it's only fair that I'm allowed to use it too.

The term & action you know as 'circle jerk' was created by 10 men in San Francisco (through trial and error) at a slumber party in 1985. At least that's what I've heard.

Whats so wrong with sitting around with 10 of your friends having some fun? I'm sure you've seen a guy walking past and thought damn, I want a piece of that. I mean, who hasn't? You come up to San Francisco and I'll show you a good time

Hell, I'm sure I can find you some guys who are into tickling too! Who knows, you might find yourself enjoying it.

 

[drew70]

Odd, I don't recall ever saying anything of the kind. Does reading an opposing opinion somehow prevent you from expressing yours? Obviously, this isn't a problem I can easily understand, since if I were the same way I would be prevented from participating here. Why does it bother you SO much when someone disagrees with you about this?

For that matter, I haven't seen anyone saying that you ought to like M/M tickling. I have seen people object to the gross generalizations and steretypes you use to justify your dislike of it, however. That, to my way of thinking, is simply correcting falsehoods. You're still welcome to your dislike, regardless.

That's not what you told me in the BDSM threads in which I objected to the "Masters Creed." As I recall, you labeled me a "troll" for entering that discussion at all, based on the disclaimer in the thread title. And here you are doing the same thing.

I see you're finding out that it's not all that easy to stay out of threads you find disturbing.

 

[primetime]

i have been reading this long thread and i thought i would chime in an opinion....

first, TIB, i absolutely love your stuff. hell, i wish i could help you tickle those lovely ladies, but i am sure you get that request a billion times and a billion times you said "no thanks..". but i love what you do with your company...

having said that, i will disagree with you about this thread. let's be real. this thread was not intended for "discussion". this thread was an attempt to bash M/M tickling without having moderators berate you and possibly remove your posts. i saw your posts in the thread that started this whole thing, so i know this is your attempt to discuss your "displeasure" with M/M without looking like a complete jerk in other threads.

now, this thread isnt "fair". why? because why should there be a thread to discuss one's hatred of a form of tickling? starting this thread could open up other threads just like it. for example, you have a fair amount of F/F tickling (which is my favorite form of tickling by the way...keep it up!). what if someone started a thread that said "what DONT you like about F/F tickling. a discussion."? what if someone started a thread that said "what DONT you like about Tickler in Black's company. a discussion"?? for the second one, you would defend your company and tell people that they dont have to buy from you. be honest. you would. i have seen your posts doing just that.

this thread is only going to invite heated discussions and really shouldnt have been started. i am not a big fan about M/M tickling, so i am not going to participate in threads containing such things. why do you feel the need to even bring this topic up? there is so many different tastes in tickling such as M/F, F/F, F/M, animals/F, animals/M, and yes, M/M. i am sure there are people who dislike one or more of those things, but you dont have a bunch of them starting threads discussing why they dont like those tastes. this forum is supposed to be for people of ALL tastes. not everyone is going to like everything, but there should be a tolerance. there may even be people who say they dont like interracial tickling, but they know if they were to state such, they would get run out of town on this site. same with you and this M/M thing. just stop acting like a jerk (you are my friend) and let this thread go. if you dont like M/M, fine. but there are many others that do. let them enjoy their tastes and you go back and enjoy your preferences (which i happen to like as well). let people be...

any chance of that?

 

[Bagelfather]

okay staying on topic

I do apologize for not staying on topic since this thread is clearly about those who do not like m/m and why.

I do not like m/m because I find that it is the opposite of a sexual turn on for me, which is why I watch any videos. I find it impossible to masterbate to m/m tickling as I find the idea of homosexuality utterly repulsive and feel they do not have a place on the TMF let alone the rest of society.

The last thing I want to do is click on a clip link and find out that it has m/m tickling rather than m/f, f/f/ mff/f, etc. When I go to the threads I want clearly defined labels so I know what I am watching and not have to waste time downloading something that I am not interested in. When I saw the clip posted as hottest m/m I knew this was not for me and not something which I was interested in so I immediately went to it so I could prove to myself it was so disgusting. I am glad that you did post something on there about how terrible it is and how non-sexually appealing it is. God forbit anyone else click on a thread for a clip they have no sexual interest in and accidentally view a description or worse try to download a clearly defined clip.

I am very sorry I was not on topic earlier, yes we should not allow any m/m stuff on the TMF. If the gays want to have their own tickling site, let them just keep that gross stuff away from here no matter how clearly labeled it is. Of course there needs to be the exception that lesbian f/f stuff which is an okay kind of gay as like most men I find women going at it hot and it is not an affront to the sexual nature of hetero men, nor do I see it as a threat to my sexuality.

I'm glad we can clear this up and all be on the same page of the distasteful, yet clearly labeled, stuff that is m/m should not be allowed. Only good gay stuff involving two women, not the bad kind of gay that makes us so uncomfortable.

 

[tickler_n_black]

I do not like m/m because I find that it is the opposite of a sexual turn on for me, which is why I watch any videos. I find the idea of homosexuality utterly repulsive and feel they do not have a place on the TMF let alone the rest of society.

we should not allow any m/m stuff on the TMF. If the gays want to have their own tickling site, let them just keep that gross stuff away from here no matter how clearly labeled it is.

I'm glad we can clear this up and all be on the same page of the distasteful, yet clearly labeled, stuff that is m/m should not be allowed.

You expressed your personal opinion very well Bagelfather.
Although it sounds a bit extreme, you are certainly entitled to feel how you feel about m/m stuff. I don't recall anyone at all ever saying that no m/m stuff should be allowed on the TMF. Sounds like you made that up. And for your information, I don't think the owners of this site are going to grant you your wish of banning all m/m material, but at least you spoke up and told us how you really feel.
Kudos to you for being honest. It's actually shocking that you feel that way, given the fact that you told us in a recent post that you willingly kissed another man on the lips, and it did not repulse you. But thanks for sharing.