There have been at least 2 topics in this thread, equally valid.
primetime said:
Do Todd's detractors do the same and try to explain to the world why they think his words mean something else? NO.
Humor me. Could the people who think Todd is "Mr. Evil" please show me how you came to the conclusion that Todd is looking for a "real" attack on a unwilling person? Please use his exact words and show me. Myself and a few others see his initial post a completely different way. Please, please use Todd's exact words and show me how he meant "illegal, nonconsentual tickle torture". I really dont think you can....That is the key to this whole debate. All i ever read is "i saw it this way and that's my opinion" and when someone posts something opposite of what you see, you blast that person too.
Actually, YES, we did. (Sigh) Okay, once last time....Hope I never see another *seeming request for non-consenting assault again, what a headache...
Todd Tickles said:
Sheesh, I think there's been about zero video's produced where there's any sort of tickle torture in the true sense of the words. Remember when you were a kid and saw the neighborhood cutie, held down and tickled to the point of craziness? Or when you and your siblings used to hold down your most ticklish sister and make her absolutely freak out and cry because she'd be laughing and begging so hard? You know... "REAL" tickle torture!?
SlaverTickler said:
It seemed like it to me Prime Time.
It was just that. I quoted the *exact words often enough. As have Slaver, kis and others.
I could take up more space & post the rest of it, but he only asked for more of the same,
with *no qualifying statements, no disclaimers against the examples he gave in that first paragraph;
just requesting THAT SORT OF "real tickle hell" etc.
We'd have to ask you --- where did you see any statement that qualifies or redeems his introductory paragraph, in the original post?
There was nothing, until his explosive & questionable "clarification" later, and that didn't help very much...
*And we DID give him the benefit of the doubt -- you and jkb breezed right over that too, unfortunately --- in SPITE of the fact his request looked downright scary
taken literally.
We
*hoped he just forgot to add a comment like, "not in real life," "not actually non-consenting," or "not that that should've been done to children..."
Anything.
But we were attacked for questioning him for making such an irresponsibly written request. And then I/we had to (repeatedly) point out the obvious statements (see above).
And in his reply, while he stated he didn't want non-consenting torture,
he also stated he didn't care about the real torture anyone/kis endured as a child.
So it looked like perhaps that *was what he was seeking; he just swallowed his foot further.
There was no reason for that degree of anger. He could've calmly explained himself. Even if you thought he had reason to be pissed for being
questioned --either way it's not a good scene.
I & others otherwise did or would've appreciate(d) jkb's efforts, and your own, primetime, but there was nothing in that OP to merit anything but concern, and jkb directed far too much blame on us for simply daring to question the obvious.
Because you guys superimposed your own interpretation, filling in his lines for him when he gave no such substance nor direction.
We asked, you assumed.
If I was at all harsh it was because I or others were rudely slammed in various posts for valid questions.
THAT latter was the "sad" flaming here.
No one should have been faulted by anyone for questioning this,
or accused of being slanderous, or vanilla, or whatever for not enjoying extremely sadistic torment of the unacceptable sort he literally asked for.
And yes, all these posts *were on topic.
Obviously *directly related to the Orig.Post, to those who said otherwise.
Others have given examples of just the sort of tickle torture videos, etc., that we hoped were requested initially ---
extremely torturous but with informed, consenting models, I assume, in a safe environment. Thank you as well.
Those are ALSO on topic. When the models seemed happily exhilarated & very ticklish I've enjoyed a few of those clips myself...
Then the question of who these informed & ticklish models should be. Within the same topic; "extreme torture" on tape.
Male, gay, straight, female --- If they're truly willing, I hope we're all happy.
Chosen & Catstoes, & others, so right, this should all be balanced... These guys want women "tortured?" They should be up for it themselves.
Thank you for your tolerance.