Any advice?

[Jagermeistered]

Not going to happen bro...

If you want an outlet, continue posting your thoughts... Their is a forum of great people here!!!!

So, socialize with some of us here!

PM me if you want to chat...

Think about your life, and not your options for an easy way out!

 

[texastickler]

I would've prescribed Zanex and booze... At least you know the ingredients.

 

[MikefromPA]

Look, I didn't mean to piss people off. I'm sorry if I come off as some thrill-seeking jackoff who is willing to throw his life away. I'm not. I didn't even mean to post this here, but I was so baked earlier I thought this was my grasscity forum tab.

I don't plan on using heroin 8 times a day and doing 40 mgs at once. I plan on using it as a once every few months at maximum thing, a nice vacation from feeling like a piece of shit all the time. My question was basically if anyone had used it, and what would be a good amount to do the first time without risking an OD.

And I really, really try to be as diplomatic and nice to everyone as possible when I'm on the internet, but texastickler, you are a fucking prick, please do not comment on this anymore.

 

[Homer28]

Look, I didn't mean to piss people off. I'm sorry if I come off as some thrill-seeking jackoff who is willing to throw his life away. I'm not. I didn't even mean to post this here, but I was so baked earlier I thought this was my grasscity forum tab.

I don't plan on using heroin 8 times a day and doing 40 mgs at once. I plan on using it as a once every few months at maximum thing, a nice vacation from feeling like a piece of shit all the time. My question was basically if anyone had used it, and what would be a good amount to do the first time without risking an OD.

And I really, really try to be as diplomatic and nice to everyone as possible when I'm on the internet, but texastickler, you are a fucking prick, please do not comment on this anymore.

I don't think your coming off as a thrill seeking jack off at all. I think your asking a question that is very very difficult to answer. And because people do not want to see you get hurt they are trying to get you not to do it.
Ultimately the problem with heroin is it is impossible to know how much to use or how much is too much. There are so many factors that unless you get it tested in a lab, you really don't know what your taking. There have been incidences in many cities where more potent heroin was being sold and highly experienced users did not know it. They took the amount they had used prior and died from an overdose. Of course no everyone who uses heroin dies, but with this drug in particular there are a lot of variables that no one can really know.

 

[Jagermeistered]

Mike,

You didn't piss anyone off!

I will not give a - don't do drugs - balderdash either. In fact, when I was your age, I had my fun times with pot. And, everyonce in a while... Still do! 😉

I even tried Speed. That was one drug I never, and will ever do again!

If you want a chemical vacation... I guess go for it.

My only suggestion is, asking a heroin addicts opinion, and a former heroin user.

Educate yourself before taking that plunge into the abyss. It's easy to say I'll only use it once in a while.

In fact, you might not like it the first time... But, will you have the self-control if you do?

 

[ShiningIce]

However bad you feel now, multiply it by a thousand. SERIOUSLY. Heroin withdrawal is something so horrible you can't even begin to comprehend it. I know I've babysat a few friends going through. it.

The way they move, Like they were being raped or electrocuted. The sounds they make, they don't sound human. Their facial expressions,terrifying. No horror movie comes close. The first time will NEVER happen again. You take it once and that's it. After that the highs are lame compared to the first. No matter how much you shoot up.

Expect to possibly shit yourself when going through withdrawal. Expect to to try and cut your own wrists because you can't take it anymore. You'll eventually go broke. Oh the stupid things you'll do to get that hit. Maybe one day you lose your needle, you're desperate, you use someone else's then guess what. You're fucked. Seriously you're fucked.

Of all the drugs in the world you could take, Heroin, Meth, and Crack are the worst. Oh wait, PCP is in there somewhere. Trust me. However shitty you feel now. However lonely, numb, sad, mad, broken. IT WILL GET WORSE.

 

[goddess_nemesis]

No matter how shitty your life may seem, using drugs as an escape is not the answer and they will not work. I'm assuming you smoke pot since you made the comment you were so baked when you started this thread. Pot's not enough anymore, is it? You need more and more and now you're looking at another, more stronger, more dangerous drug for an escape. It's not going to work. It's going to make things worse.

The high you'd get from heroin will only work for a little while, then you'll need more to get the same high, the same escape, until it will destroy you. It will kill you.

 

[phant0m]

As was said before, make sure someone is there with you in case there is an immediat emergency.

Secondly, make sure you know of a rehab center that will take you. Heroin is a 1 time=addiction drug and you will go through withdrawl. It might not be as bad as someone who uses for years and then decide to quit, but it will still be the worst experience of your life. Some people start experiencing withdrawal after as little as six hours from the effects wearing off. Your mileage may vary. Have fun with that.

 

[love feet]

I seriously hope that you're just messing with us.

Unfortunately i dont think so!! 🙁!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

[stroker]

One question you really should consider is whether you have an addictive personality ie are there other things in your life that you have continued to do or obsess about long after the intial buzz has gone.If so you run the real risk of becoming hooked. If not and you want to go ahead then I would suggest you talk to someone who has proper medical knowledge of this and can be objective about it . DONT take advice from a dealer their only interest is to take your money . I havent taken heroin but I have used morphine from which it is derived, its pretty good stuff but heroin im told is way better and therein lies the problem, could you only do it a few times and then leave it ?, some can some cant. As for the moral question well if youve ever drank alchohol then youre already a drug user and so is everyone else whos ever drank,

 

[TropicThunder]

There is no "just one time" with heroin. That shit is forever.

You didn't mean to piss people off? Yeah right, you knew exactly what you were getting into hear. "Please don't judge me." You're making a conscious decision to do something stupid. And not to mention FUCKING USELESS. What do you hope to accomplish by doing this?

Why heroin?

Smoke some fucking weed and chill out, dude.

 

[Deleted member 66627]

Okay, honestly, if you want to experience the quick-paced high you're seeking, without fucking killing yourself and don't want to smoke weed and allow the groovy to slowly sink in, then try Whippets.

I've done them a few times and they are harmless and provide about a 30 second high before you need to break another cracker.

You can get them at Headshops and Adult stores. You'll have to get a balloon, which they carry and a cracker. Then you just buy the chargers. Which are actually flavored. Here's a touch more information on it for you.

 

[stormy69]

Sherlock Holmes is a pretty messed up dude. And there's no guarantee that you'll become as brilliant. There are easier ways to get a kick out of life.

 

[OnnaOtaku]

Hey everybody, I completely understand where everyone is coming from. And yes I know it's stupid, and what bothers me is that I just don't give a shit anymore. Due to a long story that I would rather not explain, I have no family to speak of. I never really had many friends, and the few I have (I can count them on one hand) I am definitely growing apart from very quickly.
I Have been on this earth for 19 years, and I can honestly say with 100% conviction that at this point I don't have any loved ones. None. There is no one I care about and no one who cares about me. I have never had a girlfriend, and highly doubt a girl has ever even liked me in that way.
I want a family, I want to get married, I want a future. But I'm scared I won't get it, and getting high just doesn't make the feelings go away anymore.
I don't ask God for much. Never have I said "shit I didn't study for this help me god" or "please god let me win this game" because those things are in my hands alone. All I want is to be happy. I don't need money, women, possessions, if I worked as a store clerk for the rest of my life but was content, then I would feel as though I lived a good life. All I ask god for is to make me happy, give me something, anything, that will make me happy again. And you know what? H is strong enough to make me happy without the side effects of hallucinating and losing my mind that meth and crack give you. I just want to sit on my couch, wait til no one else is around, and use it. Not in public, not while doing anything I need to be alert for, just with me.
So instead of getting on your fucking high horses and telling me I'm a stupid asshole like I'm already aware of, tell me how much to use the first time. Or, click the back button on the fucking browser or the x if you opened this in a new tab.

Being a 19 year old kid, that makes poor decisions and does drugs IS NOT going to find you the woman of your dreams or ANY kind of happiness!

I'll tell you how much to use the first time, NONE! *Staying on my high horse*

 

[Bugman]

I don't plan on using heroin 8 times a day and doing 40 mgs at once. I plan on using it as a once every few months at maximum thing, a nice vacation from feeling like a piece of shit all the time. My question was basically if anyone had used it, and what would be a good amount to do the first time without risking an OD.

If you want to hear from someone with upclose, personal experience I'll tell you about it. Yes folks, you heard it here first. Good old Buggy flirted with the big H back in the day. But Mike, you may not like what I have to say.

 

[Gothika]

after u do it once u wont beable to do it once in a while trust me on that one it will become part of ya like and totaly screw it up dont friggen do it dude

 

[smokinj]

Not a good idea

I wouldn't recommend it. I tried it once, smoked it actually. It was the most mellow high I ever had but I liked it too much and decided not to do it again. Since if I had, I surely woulld not be sitting here typing this to you now.

Smoke some weed, good fucking weed and veg out on your couch. Then theres no danger of you overdosing, especially because you are planning to do this by yourself, which I don't recommend either. Please think about this some more. Teenagers feel the weight of the world sometimes and it sucks but it gets better. I don't doubt for a second if you go down the horse road you may never come back normally.

 

[Bohemianne]

However bad you feel now, multiply it by a thousand. SERIOUSLY. Heroin withdrawal is something so horrible you can't even begin to comprehend it. I know I've babysat a few friends going through. it.

The way they move, Like they were being raped or electrocuted. The sounds they make, they don't sound human. Their facial expressions,terrifying. No horror movie comes close. The first time will NEVER happen again. You take it once and that's it. After that the highs are lame compared to the first. No matter how much you shoot up.

Expect to possibly shit yourself when going through withdrawal. Expect to to try and cut your own wrists because you can't take it anymore. You'll eventually go broke. Oh the stupid things you'll do to get that hit. Maybe one day you lose your needle, you're desperate, you use someone else's then guess what. You're fucked. Seriously you're fucked.

Of all the drugs in the world you could take, Heroin, Meth, and Crack are the worst. Oh wait, PCP is in there somewhere. Trust me. However shitty you feel now. However lonely, numb, sad, mad, broken. IT WILL GET WORSE.

Wow. Nice read - an eye-opener. I never realize that some men (or maybe women) would subject themselves by choice to such suffering which I can consider 1000x worst than...

 

[Jagermeistered]

Wow. Nice read - an eye-opener. I never realize that some men (or maybe women) would subject themselves by choice to such suffering which I can consider 1000x worst than...

Right...

ShiningIce is a legit poster, Mike. Take some more notes, and continue weighing those pros and cons. So far, the cons wouldn't look so good for you!

 

[Backstep]

Mike, if you want to make more friends, go out there and find 'em. You're from PA, yes? Why not go to NEST or find a munch? Or go spend time with other people who share a different common interest?

If you're depressed, see someone and/or start taking something prescribed instead of self-medicating with a substance that can destroy you.

Find creative outlets for your discouragement and find substances that won't tear your life apart to get through a difficult night. Heroin, cocaine, etc are a one-way street.

Best of luck.

 

[porcelaindoll2]

Heroin is the one drug I would never do, but in the end it will be your decision. If you feel this is something you really need to do then go for it. I would like to point out that your are only 19. You still have a whole life a head of you. I didn't really start dating or having sexual relations until I was 22. It sounds like you are super depressed. I once was really depressed too and used alcohol to escape my problems. Until one day I realized I needed I help. I went to counseling and got Zoloft. I would try to seek out professional help for your depression before you try heroin, but this will ultimately be your decision. I see your profile says you go to college. Most colleges have counseling for free and I would look into it. I got my counseling at college.

 

[asutickler]

If you hate life, feel like you have nothing to live for, and think that there's no reason not to go out and do something incredibly stupid...

Then at least do something incredibly stupid that has a potential upside. Move to Hollywood and try to become an actor. Join the Navy and try to make it into the SEALS. Practice your playing (a LOT) and save up enough money to enter the World Series of Poker. Shit, there's tons of things to try.

You're only 19. Heroin will make you into a broken-down old man by the time you're 20. Of all the paths open to you, highly addictive hard drugs are the very worst. What you're proposing is basically suicide by long, slow torture. I'd seriously suggest that you reconsider.

 

[badreligion]

So , OP did you do it or did you get the validation and attention you were looking for ?

 

[OnnaOtaku]

So , OP did you do it or did you get the validation and attention you were looking for ?

Took the words out of my mouth.

 

[Filthyweasel]

I skimmed through all this. You honestly think that every heroin addict out there *intended* to become that way? They all said the same thing as you: "I just wanna try it...maybe once in a while." When you do, it'll be so fucking good that you won't wanna leave that place...then it'll slip away. And you'll feel even more depressed than you were before. You just entered some heaven where everything was cured and nothing else mattered, then it all went away. You'll want to go back there, so you will, again and again. After a while, the physical effects and the effects to your personality will show through. You'll be suspected at work, then tested, then fired. You'll run out of money. You'll sell everything you own. Then you'll start to lie to the friends who try to help you, just so you can steal from them. You'll lose your friends because they won't trust you any more. You'll get more depressed, and will have only one cure for that preying on your mind day in, day out. but as your body's tolerance to it increases, the happy place it takes you to gets that much further away, which means OD'ing gets that much closer. That's if blood-poisoning, AIDS or a host of other horrific diseases don't get you first.

Mate, if you want a once-in-a-while chemical escape, get a couple days off, find a friend,get some shrooms (making sure you've studied and know where they came from, what to look for, etc. Watch Survivorman...the wrong fungus can KILL you) and spend some hours in happy juicy land. I've never done them myself, but will at some point in life. I've heard that they're seasonal and can be hard to obtain most times, forcing you do only be able to do them once in a while. Plus I'm pretty sure the experience lasts a whole lot longer than the hard shit.