OJ SIMPSON FOUND GUILTY IN NEVADA!! The Juice is no longer loose!

[kis123]

Beautifully said, my midwest Goddess Kis.

My thoughts on OJ have nothing to do with the color of his skin and I wish to God people would stop thinking that's my reason for hating him just because I'm a white chick. The best man at my wedding was black, I truly do not recognize color. OJ murdered his wife and everyone knows it. He's a pompous arrogant asshole. Robert Blake was a piece of shit and a fellow Italian. Rodney King baited the cops. If you've ever been one, you know the adrenaline that results from the kind of chase he put them through. Had he been doing "the right," there would have been no issue.
XOXO

Thank you, west coast goddess!

I know many are upset over the fact he got away with murder, but he had a better attorney and the case against him was so tainted, no one could've convicted him. I personally think he's gone over the deep end (talk about one's chickens coming home to roost) and he can't mentally or emotionally control himself anymore. I don't think what he was convicted of deserves a life sentence; no one died! I"m not an attorney so I don't know all the juicy stuff. I just don't think this was the "gotcha" case for him. I just think it may get overturned or reduced sentenced on appeal.

The good news is that his kids are grown now and I can only hope they can survive yet another of daddy's scandals.

 

[steph]

I agree my love.
He didn't just ruin his own life, he ruined many. Look at the cast of characters who played in this sick, sick plot. Talk about a f'ing curse. Worst of all, no one wins in this case. Nicole and Ron are dead. OJ will forever be seen as the piece of crap that he is and his innocent kids will carry this stigma forever. More evidence that you can be rich and still poor. God help them all.
XOXO

 

[penny lane]

Now who's goning look for Nicole's killer?

 

[Mitchell]

I hope the scumbag rots in jail for the rest of his life. Quite simply, he is the most arrogant SOB on the planet. The man got away with a double murder, and has been free for thirteen years. After that, he should have been careful not to have gotten so much as a speeding ticket, and thanked his lucky stars every damn day, but no, he had to participate in another crime. This time, fucknoid, you got caught!

It will be interesting to see how much time he serves. Part of me thinks he may get out in five to ten years, while another part thinks he may never see the light of day again. He's 61 years old now, so if They gave him, say 10 to 20 years, he would likely be out with "good behavior" (Whatever the hell that is for a criminal) in 5 to 10 years. I'll bet he spends at least 10 years in jail, and, just maybe, they'll make an example out of him, and he'll never get out!

Good riddance!

Mitch

 

[Redmage]

I guess I will be the voice of differing opinion. Why is everyone so happy? Because OJ "finally" gets convicted? This whole 2nd trial reeks of a setup, but no one wants to think that because it's OJ.

Think about it. How stupid do you think OJ is to go into a room and threaten people with guns? This is OJ Simpson. Say what you want about the guy, but he is not an idiot. He has had a target on his back everyday since 1994. Do you REALLY think he is that stupid to do something like what he is accused of? Also, how convenient is it that the people in the room brought a recording device. How many of you go into a meeting ready with a recording device? I also noticed, unless I'm wrong, there was nothing on the tape that said "Please don't shoot!". Was there any indication on the recordings that guns were involved? Setup folks. It was a setup. Probably initiated by Fred Goldman....

Sorry, but that doesn't wash.

If I'm going to a meeting in which I plan to discuss the handover of a number of valuable items, you bet I'm going to record it. If nothing else I want proof that I did give those items up and that they are no longer in my possession.

As for what Simpson did, his own attorney admitted in court that Simpson was armed, and that he brandished the weapon. He justified this as "bad judgment." And Simpson is on tape ordering his confederates to prevent anyone from leaving the room (hence the kidnapping charge).

No, there was no "setup" here. Simpson was exactly that stupid, by his own admission and the evidence of his own recorded voice. He appears to have decided that since he got away with murder once he was untouchable.

 

[mabus]

Primetime, I've read your post several times and have been thinking about a few things myself. You pose some interesting arguments and I for the most part agree with you. But we do have some differing opinions.

First of all, you compare OJ to Robert Blake. Outside of two dead wives, they are as comparable as apples and screwdrivers. Same prosecutions for similar crimes; the commonality stops there. When Robert Blake got acquitted, what happened next? Absolutely nothing-he drifted back into obscurity never to be heard of again. What happened when OJ got acquitted? All hell broke loose! Why? Because instead of OJ taking his two kids and living a quiet existance happily everafter, he became an arrogant, chest-thumping, SOB-basically the man America loves to hate to this very day! Remember, this is a man who wrote a book stating if he did kill his ex wife, this is how he would've done it-did Robert Blake do that?

I firmly believe that either he killed Goldman and his ex wife or he knows who did. I heard the initial 911 tape when he broke through her door while she was on the friggin' phone-I believe that much anger and hatred can be enough to kill in not brought under control. Unfortunately, the investigation was completely botched and it gave room for him to get away with it! That's the way our justice system "works" some guilty get acquitted, some innocent get convicted. I really could care less about him; he just got away with murder in the same way Michael Jackson got away with child molestation; funny, didn't they have the same lawyer?

I do feel Simpson didn't have a snowball's chance with this case; he (once again, IMO) allowed his arrogance to get the best of him. Now they're going to throw the book at him and I don't completely feel that justice has truly been served. We don't convict criminals on karma; we convict based on hard evidence beyond a reasonable doubt. I don't think that happened here and personally feel he stands a good chance at an appeal.

Oh, and one last thing; you made a statement about Rodney King. I'm not as good at research as many on this forum but at one time the total tape (not just the one edited by the media) was shown at the police officers' trial. It was shown only once; if you would've seen what I saw, you'd be wondering why they didn't shoot his PCP induced car chase and attack. They had to beat him to restrain him. LA rioted for a drug addict on a PCP high Prime; one of the worst tragedy in our cultures' history IMO. If Los Angeles got to see the entire taping, those riots NEVER would've happened, trust me.

I almost totally agree with you, I can't believe it!

Let's look at this - OJ was far more famous than Robert Blake. Most people haven't seen a Robert Blake movie, or wouldn't notice him in it if they did.
Michael Jackson got off, but his accusers were slimy idiots just trying to get money, so even if he DID molest that kid.....his mom just wanted money. SO, if Michael Jackson goes to trial again, and gets a better accuser, he still could go to jail, and the reaction would be the same as the new OJ verdict.

OJ put himself in the media spotlight as often as he could, making an arrogant ass out of himself ever since he was acquited. This got on the nerves of the American people, seeing a killer, who beat justice, flaunting it in everyone's face. "Ha ha, I got away with murder...oh, wait, let me go find the REAL killer....like, after I finish my golf game, and grabbing at these ladies asses! Ha ha ha, what a bunch of morons!" Meanwhile, average Americans get stuck with the cheap or free lawyers, who may or may not even bother to show up to court, and may or may not be drunk! (My friend who was a cop told me wonderful stories......) The book was the straw that broke the camels' back, if it hadn't been broken already. "I didn't kill my wife...but if I did, here's how I would have done it..ha ha ha!" That's just sick. Think about someone close to you who died in the last few years. Would you write a book about how you could kill them, and try to make money from it? So the guy thought he could do anything, so why wouldn't he just get some guns and take whatever the hell he wants?

As for Rodney King, of course the media played that one section of the tape over and over again. They wanted to stir up shit, and they did a great job of it as always. Who cares if people died and businesses burned they wanted their Pulitzer's, dammit! All these people constantly demanding that conservatives apologize for what they believe in, or mistakes they made, did the media ever apologize for causing all that death and destruction? Of course not. And why the hell did Rodney King keep getting into trouble after that? That's a guy who, if he wasn't a criminal, should have wanted to stay REAL low....

 

[kis123]

I almost totally agree with you, I can't believe it!

Let's look at this - OJ was far more famous than Robert Blake. Most people haven't seen a Robert Blake movie, or wouldn't notice him in it if they did.
Michael Jackson got off, but his accusers were slimy idiots just trying to get money, so even if he DID molest that kid.....his mom just wanted money. SO, if Michael Jackson goes to trial again, and gets a better accuser, he still could go to jail, and the reaction would be the same as the new OJ verdict.

OJ put himself in the media spotlight as often as he could, making an arrogant ass out of himself ever since he was acquited. This got on the nerves of the American people, seeing a killer, who beat justice, flaunting it in everyone's face. "Ha ha, I got away with murder...oh, wait, let me go find the REAL killer....like, after I finish my golf game, and grabbing at these ladies asses! Ha ha ha, what a bunch of morons!" Meanwhile, average Americans get stuck with the cheap or free lawyers, who may or may not even bother to show up to court, and may or may not be drunk! (My friend who was a cop told me wonderful stories......) The book was the straw that broke the camels' back, if it hadn't been broken already. "I didn't kill my wife...but if I did, here's how I would have done it..ha ha ha!" That's just sick. Think about someone close to you who died in the last few years. Would you write a book about how you could kill them, and try to make money from it? So the guy thought he could do anything, so why wouldn't he just get some guns and take whatever the hell he wants?

As for Rodney King, of course the media played that one section of the tape over and over again. They wanted to stir up shit, and they did a great job of it as always. Who cares if people died and businesses burned they wanted their Pulitzer's, dammit! All these people constantly demanding that conservatives apologize for what they believe in, or mistakes they made, did the media ever apologize for causing all that death and destruction? Of course not. And why the hell did Rodney King keep getting into trouble after that? That's a guy who, if he wasn't a criminal, should have wanted to stay REAL low....

Er......um......thank you????

Maybe I should mark my calendar on this one!

And I almost totally agreed with you too-right down to the third line in your last paragraph. Just had to get that "dig" in didn't you??

Just goes to show that even polar opposites like us can come to an agreement on something once in awhile!😀

 

[jaba]

Meanwhile, average Americans get stuck with the cheap or free lawyers, who may or may not even bother to show up to court, and may or may not be drunk!

thats the thing, Mabus, it aint a race thing, its a class and wealth thing, which is why O J was able to buy the expensive defense he was able to afford in his murder case, and which is why a white Phil Specter, who basically admitted to shooting and killing a girl, and a black singer R. Kelly, who was caught on video having underage sex with a minor, are both out free like Robert Blake, and Michael Jackson, enjoying the freedom money is able to buy them.
The only color that mattered in all those cases was the green color of money.

 

[primetime]

Ok, I will admit OJ isn't "Mr. Personality". He is quite arrogant and I know that pisses people off. The book of course was a horrible, terrible, completely insane idea. That book was like sticking a middle finger at the people who think he is guilty. So, I can see why people do not like OJ. But remember OJ BEFORE the murders? I don't recall people saying the same things about OJ. He WAS a beloved figure. Amazing how one tragedy can completely change views of a person.

Red, c'mon guy. This was a complete setup. Again, did anyone on tape ever say, "Don't shoot me"? Look at this point of view as well. Let's say someone has your prized property and you wanted it back. Then, you meet with the people, they do not give you your property and they get up to leave. You don't think you would say "No one is leaving until I get my stuff!"? You're lying your ass off if you say you wouldn't. OJ had to bring people with him. He's OJ SIMPSON. He's a target. You think he is going to go alone? If we are talking about very valuable property, you are not going to go by your damn self. Again, I find it amazing that someone is bringing a recorder to this meeting. You're trying to tell me that every person brings a tape recording device to a meeting? You do this? How common place is this? Dude, it is a SETUP. I'm sorry, OJ Simpson is not that stupid. He KNOWS he isn't well loved and he is not stupid to attempt a crime knowing he will be in court and probably get convicted because of the pure hatred for him. He even said it himself. He even acknowledged that he is OJ Simpson and there is a target on his chest. Why on this planet would OJ "steal" merchandise"? Unless he thought it was his. SETUP.

Keep in mind that the guy who recorded it sold his story for a boatload of cash. What about the police recordings where it states that the cops were trying to get him? They admitted on tape they were upset about OJ's acquittal and were trying to do what LAPD couldn't do.

As for the Rodney King case. Yes, Rodney was not a shining example of a model citizen. His actions after the whole trial/Riots make him seem like he truly DESERVED that ass whuppin. But nonetheless, those cops went way too far in trying to subdue Rodney. How many cops were there versus Rodney? You mean a group of cops couldn't wrestle the man to the ground and subdue him? You see them whacking Rodney and see other cops standing there. Rodney got his ass whupped, and the cops got off. LA almost burns to the ground. Yet, people thought that the verdict was fair. VIDEOTAPE for crying out loud. Yes Rodney was breaking the law. Yes Rodney is a menace to society. Yes Rodney probably deserves another ass whuppin for harming his wife. But on March 3, 1991 the LAPD went way too far. Yet, I see no national outrage like we see for OJ Simpson. I want to know WHY. Why?

My posts have nothing to do about race. Unfortunately, the characters in these cases involve a certain race and racism was involved. But my arguing points are not based on race. It is about perception and why do people spend so much of their time hating OJ Simpson more than anyone else. I mean, we don't even see the same outrage towards R. Kelly, who definitely should have been convicted. That is more of an outrage to me. That man, despite the fact I love his music, is so guilty, OJ looks like an angel. He was on videotape for crying out loud. Amazing...

Robert Blake may have not been as famous as OJ, but then again, the media ran with the OJ story like wildfire back in 1994. But shouldn't we show the same exact outrage. After all, he "killed" his wife, there was tons of evidence against him, he got acquitted, but no one cares because he's not as "famous" as OJ. What is the real difference?

 

[Dussicar]

On a side note:

I never knew who Robert Blake was before the fiaso and I still don't know his claim to fame, but I saw a biography on his wife done on some TV channel a while ago and am of the opinion that I'd kill that bitch if I had the chance.

Justice or no, If they got it coming, they got it coming.

 

[Bugman]

thats the thing, Mabus, it aint a race thing, its a class and wealth thing, which is why O J was able to buy the expensive defense he was able to afford in his murder case, and which is why a white Phil Specter, who basically admitted to shooting and killing a girl, and a black singer R. Kelly, who was caught on video having underage sex with a minor, are both out free like Robert Blake, and Michael Jackson, enjoying the freedom money is able to buy them.
The only color that mattered in all those cases was the green color of money.

Indeed my friend.And yeah from what i remember of the case i'm sure Blake killed his wife.And just like O.J. his high priced lawyers got him off.

And just for the record Simpson was a hero of mine growing even thought he played for a rival of my beloved Chiefs.And Robert Blake was on of my favorite actors.As for Jackson,i always thought that guy was a pervert.

 

[Sandrock74]

I need a lot more money before I can kill a couple of people and spend 13 years afterwards free. Damn.

I don't dislike OJ due to his being black. Its not a color thing. I dislike OJ due to his (former) wealthy standing. Its a class thing. Although I will admit I still love the Naked Gun movies.

As for Rodney King...he's just a fucked up druggie who got his ass beat by cops and it happened to be filmed and given to the media. As for LA suffering riots and businesses burning to the ground...who is responsible for that? THE PEOPLE WHO LIVE THERE. Period. End of story. Wasn't the fault of Rodney, the cops or the media (although they didn't help). The citizens of LA rioted and caused destruction. No one anywhere made them do it. Thats the truth.

LA really made itself look foolish. An embarrassment on a national scale.

 

[giantfan121262]

What goes around comes around. In the 1st trial, he literally got away with murder (twice).

As I reflect a little to remember some details about the 1st case, I believe that some of the DNA tests, and other tests, appeared to me to definitely trace back to him. Primetime, with all due respect, I must disagree with you in the assessment that he could not have possible done the deed. As well as all the tests and evidence seemingly to have been pointing to him, I firmly believe that he could have run that knife through her neck, with his strength. I have to admit that I don't remember all the dotted I's and crossed T's, but I remember my reaction of the verdict was total disbelief, because I recall the evidence seemed beyond a shadow of reasonable doubt.

As a sports person, he was never my idol, although I respect his accomplishments that he did throughout his career and in seasons when he rushed for 2,003 yards in ONLY 14 GAMES. During his playing days, he accomplished alot in a shorter span of time, which concludes tha he had to have better games on a week to week basis to achieve those #'s. I always thought of him as a pompous asshole as a person though. What really pisses me off about all this is that instead of acting like he got a new lease on life, he goes out and does what he did. To me, it's an attitude where he thinks he is above the law, and that stinks in my book.

 

[primetime]

The LA Riots were caused by a bunch of idiots running around destroying their own crap. But what sparked their ire? The verdict in the King case. The whole reason why I bring that case up is that does anyone have the same ire towards those 4 cops like they do for OJ? Do people have the same hatred for Robert Blake as they do for OJ? Do people have the same vindictive feelings for all the other people who got off in court like they do for OJ? NO. Why do people hate OJ so much? Man, there was all kinds of evidence against R. Kelly, but he got off and no one bats an eyebrow. Same with Robert Blake. Same with Phillip Specter. That guy was drenched in blood when the cops found him, but he got off. Anyone running around cursing Specter's name, like OJ's? NO. WHY?

You can say it till you're blue in the face that OJ is guilty, but what makes you think that? The crap the media spewed during that trial. Forget about the fact that there were HOLES everywhere. Furhman, the LAPD, the gloves, the timeline, all kinds of stuff. From the evidence they presented, in order for OJ to commit the physical crime, he would have to be superhuman. The man has two bad knees, yet he performed all these physical stunts. LAPD? Ever hear of the Rampart scandal? You know, where two major detectives ADMITTED that they set people up? You don't think it is outside the realm of possibility the LAPD set up OJ? Open our eyes. Racist cop who found the glove on Simpson's property (Furhman), LAPD not properly locking down the crime scene, missing vials of OJ's blood, a horribly edited police video of OJ's bedroom, the list goes on and on. How about OJ scaling the fence of his own house? He has two bad knees, yet he is scaling a cast iron gate and jumping off the gate entering his property? Sneaking around on his own property? No blood on his carpet, yet he was drenched in blood? What did he do? Levitate? Man, that whole trial was full of reasonable doubt. No one wants to believe it, they just fed off what the media told them and they told them he is guilty.

Since people want to label Rodney King a criminal (he definitely is) and OJ an asshole (he definitely is), let's also keep in mind that Nicole Brown was no angel. She did not deserve to die, but let's keep it real. She was no angel.

Now, OJ didn't do himself any favors by being an asshole and caused people to try to set him up after that failed book idea. But this latest trial was a setup. What gets me is that no one ever explains why they have this profound hatred for OJ. I never mentioned race in my posts, yet for some reason, people want to bring it up. I don't give a damn about race, I just want to know why people hate OJ so much. If you're not concerned about race, why is it even brought up? I haven't talked about it. Think about it....

 

[Cy/MiG]

The LA Riots were caused by a bunch of idiots running around destroying their own crap. But what sparked their ire? The verdict in the King case. The whole reason why I bring that case up is that does anyone have the same ire towards those 4 cops like they do for OJ? Do people have the same hatred for Robert Blake as they do for OJ? Do people have the same vindictive feelings for all the other people who got off in court like they do for OJ? NO. Why do people hate OJ so much? Man, there was all kinds of evidence against R. Kelly, but he got off and no one bats an eyebrow. Same with Robert Blake. Same with Phillip Specter. That guy was drenched in blood when the cops found him, but he got off. Anyone running around cursing Specter's name, like OJ's? NO. WHY?

The guys you mention are/were IMO guilty. And dirtbags. You could throw Tonya Harding, Roman Polanski, the Ramseys, Gary Condit, Larry Craig and a few others in there as well.

As for the why, I think mostly because OJ was 'arrogant' about it, plus he was seen as a 'hero'/'idol' amongst many beforehand. He was among the first to gain such infamy (or at least to my young memory---speaking of which I never even heard of OJ until the trials... course I was only 7/8)

In any event, I don't think race is the determining factor to OJ's ire. I think it has more to do with his 'arrogance', perceived guilt and/or people's shattered minds/shock due to his previous celebrity status (they felt 'betrayed').

Personally I think it's very likely he was guilty and should have done the sensible thing and disappeared into obscurity forever, much like Mikey Jackson is finally trying to do.

I know what you're getting at though.

 

[Texas_Tickle]

I hope the Goldman and Brown famlies can take some comfort in the fact that this clown has finally been called to account for some of his actions.

And if any of you are golfers,beware.O.J. will no longer be out there looking for the real killers.🙄

Yep. If OJ wants to find the real killer, he just needs to stand in front of a mirror.

True he may have escaped earthly justice, but all the fame, smiles, and handshakes cannot sway the Ultimate Judge

 

[primetime]

I feel you Cy/MiG. OJ's problem is that he didn't disappear into obscurity. He kept popping up and that idea for the book was simply....STUPID. That's what pissed people off more. It was like he was taunting people. That's why he was set up for this trial. If he just went away then he wouldn't be going to jail. Besides, he should have called the cops to retrieve his merchandise. His ego caused him to fall into the trap. Oh well....

You were only 7-8 years old when the trial happened? Damn...I feel old.

Again, I'm not even mentioning race. But yet, somehow it always seems to get mentioned by people saying it's not about race. I wonder why it is constantly brought up? Makes you wonder...

 

[Cy/MiG]

I feel you Cy/MiG. OJ's problem is that he didn't disappear into obscurity. He kept popping up and that idea for the book was simply....STUPID. That's what pissed people off more. It was like he was taunting people. That's why he was set up for this trial. If he just went away then he wouldn't be going to jail. Besides, he should have called the cops to retrieve his merchandise. His ego caused him to fall into the trap. Oh well....

You were only 7-8 years old when the trial happened? Damn...I feel old.

Again, I'm not even mentioning race. But yet, somehow it always seems to get mentioned by people saying it's not about race. I wonder why it is constantly brought up? Makes you wonder...

The trial was 93, right? That's what I was basing my thought process on...

I don't even know anymore... I'm having an awkward day...

 

[primetime]

Actually, it was 94/95. Damn I'm still old. Years just whizz on by...

 

[whyguy2]

I can't say he whether he was truly guilty or not in his past murder charges because I was not there. Either way, Johnny Cochran got him off from them and now he's landed himself in prison

With regards to this case. Yes he got found guilty and could face 15 to life in prison. He is getting what he deserves in this guilty ruling. But its far, far from over because on Dec 5th when he's sentenced; his appeal will be filed and just imagine if his appeal goes through and the charges are dropped.

 

[SlaverTickler]

I hope the wife beater gets fucked in the ass.