Why Can't M/F Clips Have Hot Male Lers!!!!!!!!!

[rhiannon]

The girls in 90% of tickle vids are models. MODELS. They are hired because they are BEAUTIFUL, not even neccesarily ticklish. I understand that beauty IS in the eye of the beholder but we are not talking about your every day average looking person (like myself), were talking about fantasy. And it would be nice to have hot looking guys in some of these vids, to cater to the female's fantasy.

Perfectly said, April, thank you so much! Even though I personally don't care about the looks of lee OR ler, this is still the truth!

 

[SoleSearcher]

I do think we've had enough of calling people "creepy", and it seems as though all that means these days is "male and over 35" 😎

Or in my case, male and under 35. lol! 😉

 

[Babbles]

Yeah, see, he's admittedly gorgeous but UNDER (actually 30) or so is a little "creepy" for me 😛 though I'm not THAT far over it... and I won't comment in vid threads about my age preference unless it's non-derogatory since it's subjective.

And I agree, I saw this wasn't meant to be a hurtful thread,
and what I consider beautiful may make the next person puke (except maybe the above, no offense...) "there's no accounting for taste..." and "someone for everyone" 😀

BUT just like so many guys continually ask for this or that hot babe, or one in nylons, or barefoot, or pink fishnet thigh-highs, in a fedora with purple polka dot bunny slippers, in a peek-a-boo Elmo suit, whatever, 🙄

this was obviously just meant to be a request, and I also know all about improving one's phrasing.

Personally I'm usually glad to find ANY M/F material, as long as (hit PLAY) there doesn't seem to be real abuse or whatnot I really don't care what the Ler looks like --- and if I happen to find one so unattractive I can't watch, I'll just move on, but that hasn't happened yet.

Usually the VOICES are what I find appealling -- or a put-off, male or female...

However, it's also more *interesting sometimes if you only see arms, or a mask, that "mystery" is very appealing too, then the Ler becomes whoever or whatever you prefer...

 

[Morpheus72]

Because whether she's right or not, complaining about the attractiveness or lack thereof of other people is in poor taste.

Whenever a guy posts a thread about how the girls in X aren't attractive enough for him (video, gathering, whatever), he gets ripped a new orifice by the women in question and snootily told off by guys who want to appear "above" such base desires as physical attraction.

If guys aren't allowed to do it, then girls shouldn't be, either. It's a double standard otherwise.

That said, I agree. I don't watch videos with guys in them because most of them creep me right the fuck out. I just don't go on Internet forums and blast them for it.

It's nice when someone saves me the effort of typing. Plus-infinity to this.

That being said, there are double-standards in every facet of life.

 

[moose]

its like when you watch porn. The man is some over weight unattractive human being so idiots like me can sit there and say "if he can get someone like that than I can too!"

 

[Em Es]

Morpheas72 and Phineas

Right on. No one says you have to watch let alone like a tickling video featuring unattractive models. But that does not mean you have to post here to say "She's a pig" or "He's short, bald and fat." When I see a video preview here, if I do not like it for any reason including plain-looking participants I do not bother to comment.

To be fair to the person who created this discussion, she keeps her question in the abstract. She does not name a particular tickling video, thus not knocking any one male performer.

 

[rhiannon]

All she was saying is that the lers in m/f clips are lacking the typical mainstream attractiveness that can be found in almost every female lee! And she is darn right about it!

 

[BellaRisa]

All she was saying is that the lers in m/f clips are lacking the typical mainstream attractiveness that can be found in almost every female lee! And she is darn right about it!

That's what I thought too, but when I read it again I realized that this:

The ler is usually some overweight creepy looking old dude or a skinny awkward looking dude. Where are all the hot guys!

comes off as rather mean-spirited and insulting. Doll didn't mean for it to read that way but it does, and when similar posts are made about women we DO get angry. We can't ask the gents to be kind and respectful in their requests if we're not going to do the same 🙂

 

[Comfort Eagle]

I like scrawny dorky guy lers. Revenge of the nerds.

 

[SlaverTickler]

You Get What You Pay For!

Because the clips are marketed towards males. That's how it is in all porn. The girls are smoking hot and the guys are unattractive. Unless it's gay porn.

It sucks. I don't watch M/F clips because the lers are always creepy looking and it's such a turn off.

I wouldn't say this is true of all porn, I think they are going out of there way now to try and get better looking actors then they used to. You have to remember that, in the past, porn was 100% targeting males, now they are gradually trying to reach out to female audience a bit more. Still they have had guys like Peter North, Sean Michaels, Tom Byron, Randy West, and Randy Spears who were all pretty decent looking guys. So if the ladies here on the forum demand better looking male lers in videos then there will probably be better looking male lers. Of course you will be expected to shell out a few bucks and support the companies that produce them, other wise they will go back to what they were doing before.

 

[AmericaRocks]

I wouldn't say this is true of all porn, I think they are going out of there way now to try and get better looking actors then they used to. You have to remember that, in the past, porn was 100% targeting males, now they are gradually trying to reach out to female audience a bit more. Still they have had guys like Peter North, Sean Michaels, Tom Byron, Randy West, and Randy Spears who were all pretty decent looking guys. So if the ladies here on the forum demand better looking male lers in videos then there will probably be better looking male lers. Of course you will be expected to shell out a few bucks and support the companies that produce them, other wise they will go back to what they were doing before.

Actually, you're right. I take back the "all porn" comment. Still, the women are generally much more conventionally hot than the men.

 

[TickleRelish]

Nice perspective

LMAO! For sure bro, for sure! As much as I appreciate the kind words, I think all this thread is going to do is have the haters come out of the woodwork and chime in trying to justify why they think I'm "creepy." 😎

...but if I'm wrong, you'll be the first to know! 🙂

Everyone in our studio loves your work, SoleSearcher.

 

[Phineas]

Phineas is right.

I should probably quit while I'm ahead, but another thing that I think worth mentioning to all the "she didn't name names" crowd is, well... no, she didn't. But as nearly all of the video producers who "star" in their work are both members and active posters here on the forums, she may as well have.

I do think we've had enough of calling people "creepy", and it seems as though all that means these days is "male" 😎

FTFY.

 

[april]

I like scrawny dorky guy lers. Revenge of the nerds.

Im down for the skinny guys as well lol! Actualy, Id like to ler the skinny dorky guys hehe! And Id wear my I love Nerds T shirt while Im doing it lol!

 

[alexis rain]

Have you seen my husband as a 'ler? Hot and muscular 😉

 

[skelyrata]

I am the only man on my videos

As a producer I have to say that the biggest reward of doing this gig is having the pleasure of tickling and playing with the girls. I don't consider myself creepy or ugly, in fact some females of this forum and other social network find me cute in a peculiar way.

Also a big shunk of my buyers are actually women that get arouse by the sensual approach I work with the models and the fact that most of the models that have being filmed by my have walked out happy, pleased and they usually return many times... not just for the money, but because they have fun shooting with me.

I have a strict rule that I am the only man on my videos and that is because I actually tried in the past to use the guys that came with the models and they had no clue about how to keep a girl on for a full hour. Must of them just burned out after five minutes.

The fact is that I am the only one that knows what makes my video works, and thats because I have the fantasy in my head and sometimes is impossible to explain those feelings to another person.

I have done girl-girl, but those shoots are always a pain in the ass to coordinate because it is virtually impossible to make two girls to be in the same place at the same time.

And I have a strict rule that before making a girl girl I will have a one on one tickling session with any new girl and depending on sales and buyers reactions to each one individually and my experience with them, the I consider coordinating a girl-girl, which costs twice as much, so I have to be sure I won't be wasting my money.

I don't wear a mask because I believe that would be an insult for the female in the way that if I ask her to show her face I should take the same risk as showing my face.

 

[ChicagoDavid]

Well said!

 

[Comfort Eagle]

Im down for the skinny guys as well lol! Actualy, Id like to ler the skinny dorky guys hehe! And Id wear my I love Nerds T shirt while Im doing it lol!

Well what are you waiting for? :0

 

[april]

Well what are you waiting for? :0

I didnt mean like in a video lol. But in real life, if the opportunity ever presented itself then heck yeah hehe!

 

[chicago]

Bostontickling has a really hot male ler in most clips. ;-)

 

[Comfort Eagle]

^^

I see what you did there.

 

[april]

^^

I see what you did there.

Pray-tell, what did I do good sir???

 

[SlaverTickler]

I seriously don't understand why people are jumping all over doll saying it's rude to say that most of the time the lers are unattractive in the clips! I have yet to see one clip in which the girl doesn't look very hot and nobody complaining that she is fat/old/ugly! Why can't women complain about the same???

Maybe it has something to do with the double standard that it is OK to slam on guys for their looks, but if it was a female and a guy said they were ugly or otherwise unattractive they would get there head bit off. Welcome to the world of social equality, it sucks to have accountability for what you say and do doesn't it?

 

[Babbles]

Not really, if you look through, there's a lot of criticism here....

Actually not here, the OP didn't mention individuals, as someone pointed out, so she's not bashing anyone in particular ---

and she still got a lot of flak for being so very honest with her opinion....

So though I see your point, there doesn't seem to be a huge double standard here, in this instance.... Or if there is, it's not beneficial to women...

I *have seen people, yes, mostly guys (though I don't keep up with the vid section all that much, random visits) slammed for being really rude and making fun of a particular model ----- But guys also provide the vast majority of the comments.

Here we see a young woman commenting GENERALLY that the guys (don't seem to have to adhere to the same aesthetic standards that their female models do....)
and she's gotten hit with a number of critical comments EVEN THOUGH she didn't make any references to individuals, again...

So actually Rhiannon is correct --- if there is a double standard, it's not in women's favor here at all...

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[BellaRisa]

Actually not here, the OP didn't mention individuals, as someone pointed out, so she's not bashing anyone in particular ---

and she still got a lot of flak for being so very honest with her opinion....

So though I see your point, there doesn't seem to be a huge double standard here, in this instance.... Or if there is, it's not beneficial to women...

I *have seen people, yes, mostly guys (though I don't keep up with the vid section all that much, random visits) slammed for being really rude and making fun of a particular model ----- But guys also provide the vast majority of the comments.

Here we see a young woman commenting GENERALLY that the guys (don't seem to have to adhere to the same aesthetic standards that their female models do....)
and she's gotten hit with a number of critical comments EVEN THOUGH she didn't make any references to individuals, again...

So actually Rhiannon is correct --- if there is a double standard, it's not in women's favor here at all...

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Again: it's not what was expressed, which was a valid request, but how it was expressed. The generality of the comments didn't really lessen the bite of the words, I realized that when I read the post again. Hell, if some cranky type made a post about how all female producers were ugly and stupid, it's not like I wouldn't be annoyed simply because they didn't name names 😉 Furthermore, let's say there IS a double standard here: so? Two wrongs never make a right, and as women we're never ever going to put a stop to behavior we dislike if we behave the same way. That only feeds the flames and accomplishes nothing. I'm not the cumbayah type but there comes a time when the high road really is the best road and leading by example is the best policy.