Being sexually excited by seeing minors tickled - is it wrong?

[-Hari-]

oh beloved fellow users, must this argument..sorry... heated conversation carry on? your not all gonna agree, just seems like a very angry thread 🙁 every angles been looked into and everyones got theyre own opinion, i just cant see this going anywhere... if only i had a lock and key... 😛

 

[Deleted member 66627]

oh beloved fellow users, must this argument..sorry... heated conversation carry on? your not all gonna agree, just seems like a very angry thread 🙁 every angles been looked into and everyones got theyre own opinion, i just cant see this going anywhere... if only i had a lock and key... 😛

Agreed.

It's gonna go round and round..I mean we're already on page 14.

 

[Artoo]

oh beloved fellow users, must this argument..sorry... heated conversation carry on? your not all gonna agree, just seems like a very angry thread 🙁 every angles been looked into and everyones got theyre own opinion, i just cant see this going anywhere... if only i had a lock and key... 😛

Myriads could lock it, I guess - though perhaps we are all adult enough to let it rest...

 

[Excess]

oh beloved fellow users, must this argument..sorry... heated conversation carry on? your not all gonna agree, just seems like a very angry thread 🙁 every angles been looked into and everyones got theyre own opinion, i just cant see this going anywhere... if only i had a lock and key... 😛

Yes, it must, because, as the world spins round and round, so do people's opinions and feelings of arguing those opinions for sake of their beliefs not having enough reason to concede. In other words, 'Well I'm right and your a big stupid doo-doo head!'.😛

 

[-Hari-]

Yes, it must, because, as the world spins round and round, so do people's opinions and feelings of arguing those opinions for sake of their beliefs not having enough reason to concede. In other words, 'Well I'm right and your a big stupid doo-doo head!'.😛

😛 oi... NAUGHTY!! 😛

 

[venray]

Ok. So, I get it now. The only acceptable fetish is a fetish that causes no harm, and is entirely moral. No torture, no S&M, no rape, no knives, no strangulation, etc. Basically we're left with tickling and feet.

Bravo.

No hon....to me..(and this is a personal thing) Murder or anything to do with minors is where I draw the line....like I said..this is personal to me..though I do not share those other fantasies you mentioned, I do not see them as immoral nor do I judge those that have them...as long as kids are not involved...

Kis...never said I wanted to control anyone's thoughts.....only that those who continuously dwell on thoughts of any kind of fetish activity with minors are in need of help....not those that have that quick uncontrolled thought that pops in and they dismiss, but those that embrace them and let them flourish and grow..

And now I will shut up...lol cause we really are not going to change each others minds here...

 

[Sleepy Jean]

Wow. I have to agree with LD...again. It seems you might be the dangerous one. Wishing death upon me because I'm defending the right to have your own fantasies?
Again, I am baffled. I have some pretty bizarre fantasies of my own. From what I'm picking up, I'll be damned if I ever share them on THIS fetish community. This is a fairly close-minded fetish community.
Ok. So, I get it now. The only acceptable fetish is a fetish that causes no harm, and is entirely moral. No torture, no S&M, no rape, no knives, no strangulation, etc. Basically we're left with tickling and feet.
Bravo.

Count me as another one in agreement. Does tickling me suddenly become immoral when I'm tied up, even though this is clearly what I want? Maybe torture isn't torture when the one being tortured desires it (though it sure feels like torture). Is it OK for my husband to tickle-torture me but sick if I have the soles of my feet beaten with his leather belt, or my belly whipped with a cat-o-nine-tails, or my nipples tortured with metal clamps? Should I even talk about the other things that happen to me during a tickle-torture because this is just a "tickling" forum?

A fantasy lives only inside the head of a fantasizer. The only line that gets crossed is when one party does not consent to what the other party wants. Let pedophiles have their fantasies. Only when they cross into molestation is a perversion created.

Love,
Jean

 

[kis123]

No hon....to me..(and this is a personal thing) Murder or anything to do with minors is where I draw the line....like I said..this is personal to me..though I do not share those other fantasies you mentioned, I do not see them as immoral nor do I judge those that have them...as long as kids are not involved...

Kis...never said I wanted to control anyone's thoughts.....only that those who continuously dwell on thoughts of any kind of fetish activity with minors are in need of help....not those that have that quick uncontrolled thought that pops in and they dismiss, but those that embrace them and let them flourish and grow..

And now I will shut up...lol cause we really are not going to change each others minds here...

No, you won't change minds, but I am glad you clarified yourself. Sometimes emotion and passion about issues drives us saying things that sometimes need clarification. I'll be the FIRST to admit that when emotion and passion take over, I'm just a knee-jerked bundle of nerves and need my coat pulled to get back on track.

Well, I'm pretty much done with this topic........hope we can end this on a more peaceful note!

 

[SlaverTickler]

You want to get personal. So be it. Some years ago I found out that one of my closest friends was habitually and routinely molested by her stepfather since she was 9 years old. He took the family's money, and only got 15 months in prison. So don't you dare accuse me of lacking understanding.

I'm sorry about what happened to you friend, they should have hung the bastard.

You and I both know that I'm not defending child molesters, you're not fooling anyone by flinging accusations at me.

Now, if you'd like to try making a point, explain to me how fantasizing about kids is worse than fantasizing about torturing a grown woman. Both are fantasies of "evil" things, but are just fantasies and are therefore harmless. If either the "pedophile" or "torture fetishist" act on their fantasies, they're both equally immoral, but not until then.

Frankly, you seem like the dangerous one. You want people to die if you don't approve of their thoughts. I'm willing to defend a person until s/he does something wrong.

The difference is that their are women who have fantasies about being abducted and tickle tortured, have you met any children who fell the same way about having the genital touch by some ass hole with a kiddie fetish? I don't thinlk so.

 

[Artoo]

The difference is that their are women who have fantasies about being abducted and tickle tortured, have you met any children who fell the same way about having the genital touch by some ass hole with a kiddie fetish? I don't thinlk so.

The difference between them is moot at the thought stage - one's utmost desire to torture is not affected by the fact that some women like it - it simply means that the torture fetishist has an outlet for their desires.

 

[Tiger.Lily]

venray, thank you for clarifying.

All else, I'm done with this argument.

 

[SlaverTickler]

...ok. so, what? you directing that at me?

this is what i mean by mudslinging. the discussion is practically stalemated now that you, LD and Excess are arguing the same thing over and over again.

i, for one, am an advocate for children's rights and protection. but how can you condemn someone for their thoughts? unless you have psychic powers you have yet to publicly claim, you can't. actions are condemned, not thought. illegal actions get you arrested and incarcerated, but there is no such thing as illegal thought. if that were true, i'd have been arrested for thinking how cool it would be if Bush's head blossomed after a sniper round hit it.

is there any way things can get back on track to where this is an intelligent debate rather than grade-school argumentative?

It's not directed at you, it's directed at anybody who defend a ped's right to be a ped.

 

[SlaverTickler]

The difference between them is moot at the thought stage - one's utmost desire to torture is not affected by the fact that some women like it - it simply means that the torture fetishist has an outlet for their desires.

Of course the point is moot, because it deflates the position of those who feel peds should be aloud to breath.

 

[Excess]

This topic really has inflated into the same thing going around and around. Really, it's now basically a circle of I'm right and you're wrong. No one is gonna change anyone's view, so we might as well atleast agree to accept the differences of opinion. That especially goes for you Slaver. Telling people that they should die for not agreeing with you just isn't cool.

Someone has a few words for everyone in this topic...

 

[The Last Laugh]

Of course the point is moot, because it deflates the position of those who feel peds should be aloud to breath.

SlaveTickler, I'm not a fan of pedophiles by any means, but it scares me how you condemn an entire group that includes a lot of perfectly decent people who've never done anything wrong, going as far as to declare that they should be killed outright just because of the desires they can't help having (but can and do avoid acting on). I find it shocking how full of blind hatred you are. Frankly, you almost make me ashamed of being Canadian.

 

[Wolf]

No matter what...

Society, or at least certain members of it, will always need people they can look down on, and feel justified in abusing, denigrating, or even killing, because they're 'less than human'.
Should pedophiles who act out their impulses on other people, or participate in the market of Child Pornography be punished? You betcha.

But I think a number of people are very disappointed that these people, acting on their impulses or not, were not more easily recognizable in public...like, a different color, perhaps.

Here's a game: Trade any racial epithet for the word "pedophile" in some of the more hateful, threatening posts, and see how it reads.

 

[LD_Tickler]

The difference is that their are women who have fantasies about being abducted and tickle tortured, have you met any children who fell the same way about having the genital touch by some ass hole with a kiddie fetish? I don't thinlk so.

But don't you see? Even though some women share those fantasies, your stories are about the women who do not.

Your stories aren't about consenting adults, they're about unwilling victims. Thus, the activity in the story is still "immoral" in real life, the fact that some women like the stories is completely irrelevent so far as my point - that you write stories containing morally reprehensible activity, because we all get a kick out of them.

 

[Soda Bobinski]

SlaverTickler , you're acting ridiculous.

To condemn people to death for having thoughts & desires they ( most likely ) never asked for is short-sighted & ignorant.

LD_Tickler has brought up many great points on this thread ... one of them was bringing up that having sexual fantasies that involve kidnapping & torturing unconsenting victims can be viewed just as disturbingly as having sexual fantasies that involve children.

Now , should you be put to death for having these sexual fantasies that involve kidnapping & torturing unconsenting victims ...?! Of course not ... because you haven't acted on them , right? ... you haven't done anything! It would really be absurd for someone to string you up w/a noose around your neck & kill you just for having these sexual desires.

So , why ... why ... do you think it is acceptable to treat people , who also have ( other ) "disturbing" desires but don't act on them ( & don't intend to ) , in that very manner?

If a person has not acted on pursuing to harm another ... then why should that person be punished?

 

[SlaverTickler]

Society, or at least certain members of it, will always need people they can look down on, and feel justified in abusing, denigrating, or even killing, because they're 'less than human'.
Should pedophiles who act out their impulses on other people, or participate in the market of Child Pornography be punished? You betcha.

But I think a number of people are very disappointed that these people, acting on their impulses or not, were not more easily recognizable in public...like, a different color, perhaps.

Here's a game: Trade any racial epithet for the word "pedophile" in some of the more hateful, threatening posts, and see how it reads.

Hating someone siply because they are a different colour or have different shaped eyes is alot different then hating them because they beat off thinking about Shely Temple when she was riding on the good ship lolly pop. This is all just gutless liberal bleading heart bull shit, but since you want to play the race card on this topic... would you let one date your daughter?

 

[LD_Tickler]

...This is all just gutless liberal bleading heart bull shit...

Yeah. Tolerance and understanding are for pussies.

🙄

 

[Soda Bobinski]

Stealing A Page From LD_Tickler's Book ...

... This is all just gutless liberal bleading heart bull shit ...

Yeah ... reason & rational are for pussies.

🙄

 

[Soda Bobinski]

Not Trying To Stray From The Topic At Hand , But ...

... but since you want to play the race card on this topic... would you let one date your daughter?

... what the hell does that mean?

 

[Ticklshchic03]

... what the hell does that mean?

I think he means would you let a pedophile. I don't think he was referring to interracial dating...


It's an interesting point but theoretically, Slaver, you wouldn't know... would you because these people have not acted on anything.


However I don't think that pedophile should be in the same category as race.

 

[Deleted member 66627]

Ok, we covered Pedophilia in general...we've covered homosexualism..now race..what's next?

Can we all pretty much agree the general ACT OF pedophilia is bad, and let it lie?

 

[SlaverTickler]

Ok, we covered Pedophilia in general...we've covered homosexualism..now race..what's next?

Can we all pretty much agree the general ACT OF pedophilia is bad, and let it lie?

I got no bitch with gays, if two men or women want to get it on that up to them, what 2 concenting adults do is between them.