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Why Can't M/F Clips Have Hot Male Lers!!!!!!!!!

porcelaindoll2 said:
I had no clue I was going to spark such a big debate. I have agreed with a lot of people's comments and I do see that I should have worded it better. I really honestly wasn't trying to be rude, but I see why it would've been taken that way. I am glad some people did agree with me. Next time I need to watch my wording.
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Don't worry Doll, I was never mad at you. You do make some valid points, you just said it wrong. On the up side, this entire thing may even bring about some changes in the way videos are done. Hopefully the owners will consider the women who enjoy clips as well in the future. I just hope it doesn't have a negative effect on the reactions of the lers.

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And his idol is an Amazon who doesn't take shit from chauvinist pig males....

SlaverTickler said:
Everything you said in the above quote is absolutely asinine. While I do think your comments on William Shatner's contribution to the Trek franchise are extremely ignorant, I don't bring what happens on that thread into another, especially when it has absolutely nothing to do with it. How often have we been on the same side when it comes to different things. Obviously you forgot about that All you've done here is prove that you really are a jack ass.

Another thing you are wrong about is the Woa-is-Me Femi-Nazi, because all feminazi are Woa-is-me dames who feel sorry for them selves and use men as scape goats for their lousy lives. All they do is wine and bitch, and when somebody comes along and tells them to shut up, they hide behind their gender like a coward pulling a girl in font of him during a fight. The truth is that if a male member of the forum had made the same general comment about women's appearances he would have been ripped a knew one by a certain portion of the forum. Well why shouldn't it happen to a female member of the forum as well? When Doll made that comment, though I believe her when she says she didn't do it to offend anyone, she was in fact slamming members of the Forum. After all there are allot of producers who are members of the forum. So when rhiannon said she didn't understand why people were coming down on her for it, I explained it. If you don't like hearing (or in this case reading) the truth to fucking bad.

You are right about one thing Babbles, I am not a gentleman, because in this day and age, a gentleman is just a sucker waiting to be had.
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The first half of your last sentence is correct.

The rest is just obscene/ly ridiculous. Like I said, get back to me when you can hold a normal (see adult, and civil...) conversation.
 
There is a bit of a difference between posting pictures of naked ass and posting pictures of your cock, which has a lot more to do with being made fun of. Having a small one doesn't help your chances, but, again, you find people at least able to excuse that element of someone if they have a good enough personality, which...well...do I really need to go indepth on that one?

Just like seeing full out vag shots from members would make me uncomfortable. Have some modicum of restraint and self decency.

As for the OP, what is exactly wrong with what she said, or even in framing it? Sergio has long hair, looks like he puts in work at the gym. Takes care of himself really well. There's a major difference for someone on the female end who has another reaction entirely to what is going on in said clip to get anything from it, such as displacement of the lee and putting herself in that position. But you don't have to be a super model to work, and that's what people don't understand; take care of yourself, hit the gym, eat right, dress stylishly, and guess what? You'll look fine. Hell, there's people that look fine without doing those things. But the outcry is obviously from people who are either taking it as a shot or because they aren't comfortable enough in their own skin. Like, I get the accessibility deal; there's nice looking ladies here, and they enjoy getting tickled and OMG THEY LIKE WHAT I LIKE MAYBE ONE DAY WE WILL SECRETLY MEET AND TICKLE...but come on. I know; stereotypical. Take it into account when you start a video company in an oversaturated and commercialized endeavor. There is a market out there that want better looking lers. Rock it.

And while masks don't freak me out, they just make me roll my eyes and sort of show the manifesting of that closeted feeling a lot of people have about this fetish.
 
Since I posted back on page two, this thread has taken a turn for the totally flippin sweet. There's is some olympic level talking-in-circles going on here.

Everyone is saying accurate and true things. But none of these things are the opposites of any of the other true things that are being said. Yet, people are still insisting that their rightness means other people are wrong. This is the problem.

YES, PD made a valid comment
YES, she made it in kind of a harsh way
YES, men get flamed when they're explicitly superficial
YES, men are explicitly superficial

You see how nobody's point actually contradicts any other (with the possible exception of the feminazi critique?). Argument fail.
 
april said:
The girls in 90% of tickle vids are models. MODELS. They are hired because they are BEAUTIFUL, not even neccesarily ticklish. I understand that beauty IS in the eye of the beholder but we are not talking about your every day average looking person (like myself), were talking about fantasy. And it would be nice to have hot looking guys in some of these vids, to cater to the female's fantasy.
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i know this thread is old but i totally agree with april here
 
Babbles said:
The first half of your last sentence is correct.

The rest is just obscene/ly ridiculous. Like I said, get back to me when you can hold a normal (see adult, and civil...) conversation.
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Everything he said made perfect sense to me, and seemed pretty much spot on (except the feminazi stuff... can't say I've really met a woman as bad as he says). I wouldn't say anything he said is ridiculous - let alone obscenely so.

When it comes to people in video's, any guy who insulted a model will have a slew of people in the thread calling him an asshole for it. It's happened many times. Even when it's a dude criticising another dude in the video, there'll be people calling him an idiot, 'cause everyone has different tastes.

Also, just so you know, this is a normal, adult conversation you two are/were having. Don't continue to try to pull that card just because you have nothing good to say.
 
Wow my thread got 8 pages. This is crazy. Now I'm wondering how many more will it get?
 
I like f/m clips, but not being a woman I just want to see someone with a reaction. Most f/m is a really hot woman on a guy going "heh... heheheheh.... heh heh..".

And that sort of kills it.
 
I've seen plenty of clips with attractive Male Ler's. -- It's all a preference thing. What you might find smexy, might not be the same as someone else.

I totally have a feeling I've already posted in this thread, but I'm pulling a tl;dr.
 
I think a good solution here would be for studios to hold open auditions for young, attractive men to be lers and lees in the clips. This probably wouldn't appeal to producers who do the tickling themselves because it would be an extra cost, but for producers who hire men anyways they can only see an increase in quality if they have their pick of the bunch.

I would also like to take this time to mention that I played the role of the taxi driver in my high school's rendition of "Harvey," so if any producers need someone who can ramble on about sunsets and true happiness for an intro plot, I'm always available.
 
badreligion said:
It is to give ugly guys hope .
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Okay so what about the reverse of this. Why is it most of the big well known producers only use super hot chicks as lees? Okay I know it is mostly guys buying, but why can't they once in a while use an average woman? I'd love to see more women with my body type being models in tickle clips. It makes me feel ugly when I keep seeing perfect tens as models. I hope I make sense.
 
porcelaindoll2 said:
Okay so what about the reverse of this. Why is it most of the big well known producers only use super hot chicks as lees? Okay I know it is mostly guys buying, but why can't they once in a while use an average woman? I hope I make sense.
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Because they know 99% of men are superficial pigs lol .
 
Cavum said:
HEY!!! 😛
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Hey don't worry I know there are a few companies that have nice looking male lers. you are one of them. I was going by what I generally see in clips, but since writting this thread I have found that there are more attractive male ler producers then I originally thought. Of course like I always say beauty is in the eye of the beholder, so what is attractive to me might not be attractive to another female. I would like to tell the women that they are out there. All you have to do is find them.
 
Reading this thread and others, just proves once again that those of us with fetishes usually have VERY strong opinions and VERY specific likes and dislikes with regards to the particular fetish.

I noticed that some people bash 'lers in videos who wear masks.
In my case, wearing a mask is a necessity. I wish that it wasn't, but because of my career outside of tickling, it has to be that way. I'm sure this is the case for others as well.


Take care,

The Fastest Fingers in The East
 
This thread intrigues me. To me it doesn't matter about looks, it is the tickling and laughing that counts. I probably think this way because I am not very attractive myself but I respect other peoples opinions on things annd have the right to disagree. M/F or F/M clips, I don't care what they look like, the passion for tickling is what makes it good to me
 
Some1Getme said:
This thread intrigues me. To me it doesn't matter about looks, it is the tickling and laughing that counts. I probably think this way because I am not very attractive myself but I respect other peoples opinions on things annd have the right to disagree. M/F or F/M clips, I don't care what they look like, the passion for tickling is what makes it good to me
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Don't be so down on yourself, broham. I'm sure you're a sexy stallion with a dong on par with the god Zeus. When you hump, lightning bolts shoot down from the sky in celebration.

But yeah, it's true, looks aren't a majorly important factor. I like to look at models, but honestly, it's the girls on camera that are more within my reach that I really enjoy. I like knowing that I'd have a chance of being with a girl on par with the one I'm watching. Also it's more clear that they were hired because of how ticklish they are, rather than how beautiful they look regardless of ticklishness.
 
Crystal Light makes a good point

It is harder to say what kind of man will appeal to a woman. Not that being tall, dark, and handsome won't open more doors for a guy than looking like me will, but even guys who look like me have had luck with attractive girls. While it's easy to predict girls who are prettier and have nice builds will get the most second looks from guy, women just seem to respond to a great variety of men.
 
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