"All Girls Gathering" Am I the only uncomfortable one?

[ViperGTS]

Well, when I came back from work tonight, I started reading posts on this topic and decided to reply again, but then I started noticing that my opinion and point of view was being labelled as "immature" and "insecure" by several folks, including some that I held a great respect for. Given the fact that it seems impossible to express an opinion on this thread in a mature manner without being flamed for it, I've decided that this discussion does not warrant my continued presence (especially since I don't seem to need to be here anyway, given the sheer volume of response my original four cents generated).

Thanks to all who agreed or respectfully disagreed with me, and to all who, at least, took the time to try and see my point of view.

Happy tickles, and thanks for letting me at least express my point.

 

[vegasfootboy]

agree to disagree

i dunno,,, we are human,, we are all different,, some more evolved in other areas than most,, yet evolution is a funny thing,,evolve into what? who is to say good or bad?,, your not going to get everyone to agree on this,, people are different and intitled to thier own opinions,,who is to say viper is wrong? he is feeling what he is feeling and that is unique to him,, unless you can climb into his brain and feel the way he does then give him the respect to be himself and have his own opinion,,this post makes me think about how the guy to gal ratio in social settings has always been an issue,, at night clubs they offer " no cover charge and free drinks" to the ladies to try and even the playing field,, im always hearing from other guys about how its a 1 to 10 ratio either at clubs or social functions,,

i have 3 sisters,, i know where you ladies are coming from with the slumber party girly girl pedicure party scenarios,, i saw alot of it growing up and well know a girls desire to be around other girls and to do girly things : ) and yes us guys have our thing where we get together for darts, pool, and beer... or sporting events and such,, and yes those are great bonding scenarios for us,,i guess my initial feeling after having read vipers post brought me back to my early first love relationship,, she was an extremely trusting girl with no thought in her head at all that anyone would ever take advantage of her,, and i remember her always falling into traps with people who were able to trick her into situations where they could take advantage of her,, i would see her pain and frustration time and time again,,she was the kind of girl who would fall prey to someone who had bad motives at a tickle party im sure,, probably wind up hogtied and felt up by some desperate female who used the tickle party as a ruse to get a hot young innocent thing into some of her bondage fantasies,,,

as a whole the female tickle gathering is an awesome idea! through and through,, sounds fun and im sure will be safe enough,,i just want the ladies to know it is in the nature of alot of men and i mean most,, to be protective of the women in thier lives... to be wary of things that might be dubious,,we dont mean any harm by this,, just the opposite,, ladies help us understand what it means to you,, help quell our fears and confusion instead of getting angry at our lack of understanding,,have your wonderfull ladies night and be safe,, look out for each other and have fun!

at the same time,, please put yourselves into our shoes for a moment and try to be empathetic to the guys who dont understand the meaning behind female bonding,,,

 

[ticklkitten]

Not that it should ever matter but to whom posting that this gathering is most likely being put together by women of an "alternate lifestyle". For the record, the two women starting this little extravaganza are both hetero females. Sorry to ruin your point there. You don't have to worry about us "shady" women corrupting your girlfriend.

 

[venray]

However if you would like to corrupt me, Kitten..........

 

[vegasfootboy]

simply put,,,

in any group of people you can only speak for yourself,, ever see the news broadcasts where people comment on the serial killer? where everyone says " gee,, i used to let him babysit,, he was great with my kids,, i never thought that was possible " quite simply,, you can only speak for yourself,,,

 

[ticklkitten]

However if you would like to corrupt me, Kitten..........

Is it possible to corrupt you anymore than you already are venray?? Although one can always try... + =

 

[vegasfootboy]

no labels..

simply meant to say,,,
never say never,,, : )

 

[venray]

Since She is one of the organizers I think it is safe to say that she can speak for the safety of the event........

 

[venray]

Is it possible to corrupt you anymore than you already are venray?? Although one can always try... + =

Oh PLEASE try..........

 

[kcantankerous]

Whatever! hopefully my last reply on this thread.

Who knows maybe Viper would feel bad that he couldn't satisfy his girl in every possible way. I dont know one way or the other. Again the only time I really got fired up was at some of the responses from the other thread. First guys pleading to go to this thing. I don't know if you guys were kidding or not. But damn some of you started getting to me. I read some posts here and there that make me wonder what the heck is going on. Seems like some abandon pride on this forum. You guys are either pumping up some of these girls egos or your really deprived. As far as the women go, have fun but heck the real draw is that yall are into tickling. If you were'nt I don't think this would even be an issue. Some of the girls here must think their sh.. don't stink though.

 

[Majestic]

Man did this thread get ugly in a hurry or what? Yeah, like many of those who posted, I was just gonna read and go on my way but I feel the need for my two cents. Im neither young or immature and I can understand Viper's concern. When two people share tickling intimately it is hard to imagine them tickling or being tickled by others when you're not present. Sometimes it's hard, when you're in a relationship where tickling is a big part sexually and non-sexually, to understand that, if you're in love with someone and it's obvious they are in love with you, the tickling/being tickled by others is simply good, clean fun. I happen to be in a very healthy relationship with a member of this forum. As he has voiced, he would have no problem with me attending an all-girl gathering. I havent had the experience of a gathering yet and am admittedly a novice as a ler. As a female and half of a tickling couple, I appreciate the idea of an all-girl gathering. Why? Because my experiences with tickling so far has been with other women. Why? Because it's more comfortable for me and, like Sultry, I am older (46) and I enjoy the company of younger women. Again...why? Because they keep me young. The idea of an all-girl gathering would afford me the luxury of hanging with the girls, tickling, laughing and sharing experiences that, even though Daddy is my best friend, only girls can share together. Heck! We could even tickle each other and accidently fart without being totally embarrassed!! Sorry, I threw that in for Daddy's benefit. I know Im rambling. Im famous for that. Let me just share one night with Viper for a minute. One night at Daddy's house, me and two of my girlfriends were "being girls", both of them younger than me and actually Daddy's friends before they became mine, and very good looking women I might add, when out of nowhere we found ourselves wrestling on Daddy's floor and tickling the bejezuz out of one another. No offense to Daddy but....we forgot he was even in the room but he didnt mind. Yes he enjoyed watching and was content. NOT because there were three women tickling each other on his living room floor but because he saw that I was having a good time, totally non-sexual and teen-aged in nature. He saw the little girl in me that he never got a chance to see before since we hooked up when I was 41yrs old already. I was at a slumber party in my mind with my girlfriends. Kinda like reliving my childhood for a few minutes. I imagine this is what the all-girl gathering would be like. A buncha "girls" getting together and being kids again without any "boys" around to possibly leer, drool and fantasize. I will tell you though Viper, if I felt that Daddy did not really want me to go, there would be no argument. I would respect his feelings 100% because he is my partner. I dont know if this made any sense at all but damn...I feel better for my two cents. Bottom line Viper, you have every right to voice your concerns here and the way you feel does not have anything to do with being immature or young. I respect your feelings and even though I do not know Irishgirl personally...Im sure she loves you and will respect your feelings as well.

Majestic

 

[ticklkitten]

As far as the women go, have fun but heck the real draw is that yall are into tickling. If you were'nt I don't think this would even be an issue. Some of the girls here must think their sh.. don't stink though.

For starters... I really enjoyed reading Majestic's response. Well thought out, mature and valuble in content. Thanks for adding your two cents...

And to what knogz posted above, I hoping for some clarification here. I'm not sure if you are saying that we wouldn't be attractive and interesting if we weren't into tickling or if you are saying that we are into tickling and so that makes a girls night out an issue then my question back is "why?" and to top it off what on earth makes you think that some girls on here think that their sh*t don't stink? Because I certainly hope you weren't pointing that at me.. if you were please tell me because I would like to know that you think that of me. Please clarify...

And Viper... I have always thought you a friend. I'm a lot concerned why you would start this thread rather than just approach me with your concerns. I didn't think that Irishgirl had an issue with this gathering because she posted in favor of it early on in my thread... I believe that you are missing one of the main points to holding this gathering in the first place.

 

[kcantankerous]

Nope not you kitten, I actually like you a heck of alot. I think your cool, I just think that some of the replys from other girls on the thread you started were acting high and mighty. But I respect you, and steph, and tickly gal. I really never communicated with the others. I can name the names of the girls that I was refering to if you want.

 

[ticklkitten]

Nope not you kitten, I actually like you a heck of alot. I think your cool, I just think that some of the replys from other girls on the thread you started were acting high and mighty. But I respect you, and steph, and tickly gal. I really never communicated with the others. I can name the names of the girls that I was refering to if you want.

THanks knogz, and naming names isnt necessary, I just wanted to know if it was me. But can you answer the other stuff I asked you??

 

[Stevereeno]

What we have here is...failure to communicate.

 

[kcantankerous]

Well, I really was responding about the whole why do guys want to know where the location of this place is. To me it sounded like some felt that this would cut us guys off to what yall were doing. Like a f... you of sorts. Or I think some of the girls in that thread were trying to convey that kind of message without actually saying it. So the whole "if you weren't into tickling thing," was to bring the some of the guys enthusiasm into perspective. Now I personally havent seen any of the girls here, except for some pics here and there. The idea that you girls want yalls own deal is fine with me as I've stated afew times. But I feel like some girls treat it as a thumb in the eye to us guys. I also made a point to talk about some of the guys who couldn't get the hint that they weren't allowed. To me I think the majority of us get the bad rap, of being into the whole lesbian orgy, sex obsessed, on track mind assumption. You Kitten might not think of most guys like that but youd be in a minority thats for sure. And again I have no problem with you Kitten.

 

[kcantankerous]

"I imagine this is what the all-girl gathering would be like. A buncha "girls" getting together and being kids again without any "boys" around to possibly leer, drool and fantasize."

These are the kind of comments I was refering too, although this is exactly what some of the guys that wanted to crash yalls party would do anyways.

 

[ticklkitten]

Thanks knogz... since I read your recent post to me, I haven't worried about you much. I thank you for not having a bad opinion of me and being honest. The whole "secrecy" thing is more intended towards the guys who DON'T post so much on the TMF. The ones who WOULD drop everything and try to show up at my gathering just to be creepy. A HUGE point to my gathering (which a sad number of people don't seem to understand) is to encourage girls to come to all invited gatherings. A lot of the ladies coming to this gathering don't often attend gatherings. By coming to this one they will hear MANY stories about how cool gatherings are and the rules that govern them. So not only are us girls going to have an AWESOME time... but some are going to learn about how great and respectful the guys are at gatherings.

 

[Gothmog]

I don't really think anyone cares what I think,but oh well I'll try to be short and try not to bother any of you all,sorry if I do.I think this mainly has to do with the fact that Viper feels that if his other were going he would not be able to experience this intimate thing between them,thus feeling excluded.If in response to this an all male one were put together it seems it would be done out of spite rather than for fun.Many males are insecure about touching and the sort around other males.It's an insecurity that many males share.Many females also will probobly not attend because they don't like the idea of other women tickling them.When ever someone is rejected from a group they always feel like it's done out of distaste or spite.Like those no girls allowed tree houses.He may that if she went the parties creators were saying "we only want her so piss off."And not being able to share the experience with her.I don't think anyone should be extremely upset over this or want it to stop,but I see the point of Viper's concerns.I was a little annoyed when people said that men would just gawk.I would never barge into somebody's house uninvited and just start drooling.Oh well that's my two cents,so sorry for bothering you all.By the way not ALL men just play beaseball,and watch sports.Some of us are reading about quantom foam,and learning Chinese.

 

[Gothmog]

Sorry again for my interference.

 

[dvnc]

There have been gatherings that were men only. There have been whole FESTIVALS that were men only in certain subcultures associated with ours (I speak of the men's foot-fetish events which outnumber any gathering in our interest).

There are also already events privately arranged that are women only. I'm aware of them, but being male, not privvy to detail.

I do know that it's quite personal if a person's PARTNER elects to go to an event that the person would LOVE to attend, themselves. I also understand that some folks are sensitive to feelings of exclusion in such situations. Takes an extraordinary degree of personal confidence and faith in your partner, and the ability to share them with others, to deal with such comfortably.

Personally, I'm not sure how so many men can get sensitive about women becoming more confident about such events. Women have been having such meetings for generations in the "vanilla" world. They have STORES for such in the vanilla world.

Ask yourself why lingerie isn't applied to both genders. When's the last time, fellas, you bought anything you'd call lingerie?

My opinion is that such women-only meets are a great thing, in that they provide the safest possible feelings for those attending. Such attendees, if they prefer male company sexually, then have a more confident ground for gatherings, and indeed will likely LEARN things about this interest that will benefit them and their partners.

My $0.02,

dvnc

 

[Majestic]

A buncha "girls" getting together and being kids again without any "boys" around to possibly leer, drool and fantasize.

Knogz,
I apologize if you misunderstood my post but please notice the key words "boys" and "possibly". Im not saying that I think my sh*t doesnt stink or that I think I am all that and a bag of chips. I was speaking only for myself and I even have to admit that seeing women tickling each other is erotic to an extent. I simply meant, for myself, I would be more comfortable, since I am basically inexperienced in the gathering scene, sitting around with other women who share my interests. I would be more comfortable tickling or being tickled by other women at first and I would be more prone to go to a m/f gathering after having got to know the other women here. I dont know about anyone else here but I find it a little uncomfortable walking into a social event where I dont really KNOW anyone. I have been a member for quite some time but the fact remains that, aside from my partner, everyone here is a name and possible a picture, to me. Again, I apologize if I, in anyway, gave the impression that I was disrespecting any of the male members here. That was not my intent.

Majestic

 

[AquaFeline]

Ask yourself why lingerie isn't applied to both genders. When's the last time, fellas, you bought anything you'd call lingerie?

Oh come on, who usually buys the lingerie? 😉

 

[vegasfootboy]

an interesting question,,

ok,, the girls want to get together,,

why not for tea and cookies?

why not form a book club?

why not all meet at a diner and enjoy a meal?

why does it have to be "TICKLING"????

if the guys said lets have an all male tickling gathering people would say thats gay! sure us guys get together for drinks and sports and such,, but it doesnt involve them touching each other in an attempt to bring forth stimulis..so why does it have to be tickling?? why such an intimate thing?? getting together for something else wont do?? it has to be tickling ?? and with only girls?? i could just imagine what a girl would say to me if i said that to her,, " hey i want to go to a gathering where only guys will be allowed and we will be tickling each other"

think about it,,,and now im hearing women say " id feel safer if i went to an all women tickle event first" come on,, dont we hear all the time about how safe these coed gatherings are? about the " body guards" and the guys who jump at the chance to defend any woman who would feel insecure?? i mean they are always telling us that the tickling nests and gatherings are extremely safe,, isnt it also true that you run the risk of being hurt or harrassed at an all girl event?? isnt the chance of someone being bothered by another girl just as realistic as the girl being bothered by another guy at a coed gathering?? it makes us feel like drooling sexist slobs that cant controll ourselves,, they have us all wrong here,, sure some " people" are that way but that goes for both women and men,, i have been at regular parties where some women were ogling me and couldnt keep thier hands off me,, yes it bothered me because i wasnt interested but its that way with both sexes,, there are no guarentees that someone wont do something another person will find innapropriate,, a woman can be harrassed by another woman just as she can another man,,

 

[golas1964]

Oh boy, let the flames begin... (again)