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"All Girls Gathering" Am I the only uncomfortable one?

1)no one had to respond to his original post.

2) there was no "defense necessary until the others started trashing each other. Yourself included.

You have done nothing to add to this other than whine and are no better than the others who have done the same........

In fact it seems to be prevalent in all of your posts thus far on this forum....
 
Have any of you even READ the original post. Viper states that he would not stop his GF from going were she able to attend....

His concerns were those of being left out of something merely because he is a male....

He asks for opinions of whether or not he should be feeling this way...

He did not trash the girls for wanting to do this...he is only questioning why HE is uncomfortable with it...

He is very mature in the way he presented this...it is those that have resorted to name calling and trolling and whining that are showing the need to "grow up"

I believe that shows the validity (word of the day) of his post and his right to post it......

Ray
 
Iam actually on both sides of the fence in regard to this issue, and while Iam not trying to be "Switzerland" so to say, and remain neutral, I can truly see it from both sides.
Viper: I can completely see your point of feeling "left out" In your view, for lack of a better word, you feel that guys are being segregated, and not allowed to attend this particular gathering. While I understand your discomfort and viewpoint on this, pal, I also must look at the other side.
"The Other Side" being this. Although this isnt the same instance, an analogy is appropriate here I feel. Although I was not in a frat in college, I had many friends who were, so I used to hang out with some frat crowds on a regular basis. While we often had many girls at our parties and gatherings, I can recall times on certain sports nights, like during World Series, Super Bowl, or other times, where we would just be a group of guys gathering at a house, to hang out, and watch games, and the brothers would say that girls werent allowed for that night, because it was a "guy night". Weird for a frat, I know, but sometimes, the guys just wanted to hang out without pressures of girlfriends, sex, or certain behavior expectations. If we wanted to drink, curse, scream, etc, and such behavior wasnt usually exhibited around girls.
While I realize that a tickling gathering is far different than a frat sports night, in my view, the intent is the same, and, therefore, I find myself in agreement with Jeff's point. What is wrong with a group of girls getting together for a few hours one night, a sleepover, or even a weekend without guys around? We all know that if guys were there, the "theme" of the party, or the "expectations", might and most likely would be different. Iam certain that all of us, as I did with some of those frat parties, went off with our same sex platonic friends for a few hours on certain occasions without our girlfriends or girls with us all the time. I did this often, to baseball games, outings to Atlantic City, and even clubs. My father did it when my parents were married, and my friends fathers do it.
So to summize: Feelings of "left out" as Viper says, I can understand his feelings. Is there anything "wrong" with an all girls night? In my view, no. I think sometimes all genders, even when the genders are romantically interested in the opposite sex, need time to themselves. To me, it can enhance relationships with their romantic partners, and provide same sex "bonding" time, as is said, so I see nothing wrong with it. I understand and sympathize with Viper's point, but I also see the other side, as I myself have gone through it with ex girlfriends, and, honestly, I see nothing wrong with the type of party talked about in this thread.

Mitch
 
knogz said:
Sultrybrunette no you were'nt the one I was refering to though, I actually enjoy the conversation we're having about faithfulness. You seem level headed

Whew! :blush: Thanks.
 
venray1 said:
However if you would like to corrupt me, Kitten.......... :idunno:


Corrupting you would be like trying to ADD tarnish to a penny that has been left out in the weather for 200 years. :wavingguy :manicd:
 
Female Wrestler said:
Since the original concern isn't valid and had no basis for being posted why not just delete the whole thread?

FM

because nobody gives a shit what you want, or think.



I can't believe anyone has a problem with what this guy posted.


"Have any of you even READ the original post. Viper states that he would not stop his GF from going were she able to attend....

His concerns were those of being left out of something merely because he is a male....

He asks for opinions of whether or not he should be feeling this way...

He did not trash the girls for wanting to do this...he is only questioning why HE is uncomfortable with it..."

Venray is dead on. End of story.
 
What an awesome thread!

What's scaring me a little is that I can understand and relate to nearly all the points of view presented. I can understand Viper's mild concern about being left out. Hell, nobody likes that, no matter what the reason.

I can also understand the ladies wanting a girls only nite. If my wife wanted to participate in such an activity, I'd have no problem with it. I think its good for the women to bond. I'm of the opinion that women put up with a lot from us men, and they deserve a break from time to time. Of course, being the pervert I am, just knowing these women are going to be tickling each other is exciting in and of itself. :veryhappy

I can also understand the frustration of some of the younger guys that would give their left testicle for one decent tickling session. They can't rely on other guys for relief the way women can. I've been in that place of desperation, and it is not fun.

And finally, I can definitely understand and relate to the compulsion to flame each other. My only regret is that I found this thread a little too late in the game to catch the interesting stuff before it was censored. 😀
 
ViperGTS said:
I spent a lot of time with my girlfriend (Irishgirl5) over the weekend, and while we were surfing the boards, she told me about an all women gathering that is trying to be arranged by several of the more prominent female ticklephiles of the boards.

Now, even though Irishgirl5 is not able to go (which I would not try to stop her if she could, mind you), I feel slightly...uncomfortable about the idea. From what I have learned, the situation is also sparking an entire website.

It's difficult for me to put this to proper words. I feel at a slight loss for it. It seems as though the mere fact that those of us have a pair of testicles is excluding us from part of the society. Granted, we still have the open areas like the TMF and whatnot, but aren't "Gatherings" all about everyone, from all walks of life, with all different backgrounds, from BOTH genders, being able to come together to explore our fetish? I don't feel as though it's...well, "right", to hold an exclusive gathering such as this. I also feel very left out about the alleged website I've heard of also, for the same reason.

I am not saying these things shouldn't happen. In fact, I'm rather confused. Should I not be feeling this way? Am I wrong to feel left out of such a thing, and the only male here that feels so? Am I over reacting?


Viper, bro, I feel I can chime in directly here. I met you only once.
Perhaps a few folks a missing a point and perhaps you may have over read something into the all girl gathering.
While I understand and can see your point fully I do not think however that kitten and the girls are saying that they want to turn all gatherings into women only.
I believe that they just want to have the occaisional "girls night out" but with girl friends who share the love of tickling and being tickled.
It will probably be a good thing especially for those girls who would normally be intimidated by going to a massive gathering or one that is dominated by males. Meeting other girls and only girls especially those girls who have been to other gatherings, will make them feel safe and made to be and feel comfortable about going to other get togethers. Plus they will meet other gals who are and feel just as they do and have the same desires and passions or at least similar ones' about tickling and/or being tickled thus making them more open and comfortable with themselves and significant others and or friends etc. .
I don't feel they are shutting anyone out but just want to have a girls night where they can open up to each other on the same wave length.
There is NOTHING wrong with you bro. You expressed your feelings in what you may have misinturpeted. It is not a meeting of the ladies agains men club and I don't think any brainwasing will be going on either..........lol!
The girls here in the TMF are a great bunch of gals and there are alot I am proud to call friends. You would have nothing to worry about for I do feel their intentions are honest and good.

Then again, the road to hell is paved with good intentions 🙄 🙂

Fret not my friend......

TTD
 
drew70 said:
My only regret is that I found this thread a little too late in the game to catch the interesting stuff before it was censored. 😀

You missed nothing but a few cuss words, dude....not worth the short time it took to type them....lol
 
TickledToDeath said:
Corrupting you would be like trying to ADD tarnish to a penny that has been left out in the weather for 200 years. :wavingguy :manicd:

SHHHHHHHH!.... :evilha:
 
Female Wrestler said:
how is this anything but the ramblings and complaints of an immature boy?

FM

Sorry in advance mods....Please feel free to pull this post if you see fit. In fact, I for one wouldn't have any objections to trash canning this entire thread.

FW... I could probably sit here and ask the same about you. You've been here all of two months and have posted ten times. Every post has been a complaint of one sort or another. (I looked before 7 or those 10 were pulled....Gee, I wonder why!) I'd say it's time to look in the mirror.
 
Hmmm... No wonder I had a sudden craving for garlic and a cross. FW...VC...a jerk by any other name would be as sour.

OK, I'm out. This stupidity isnt worth it and has little to do with Vipers concern.
 
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I have no problems with the girls getting together. Looking at it from a third person's perspective, I understand that nothing "bad" (define it any way you wish) would happen, and that it's just for fun. But G** DAMN IT that was not the point!! I thought I made my point very clear in saying that I felt uncomfortable with the idea, but that I would NEVER stop my signifigant other from attending such an event should she desire to do so. I thought I made it clear that the problem did not lie witht he gathering itself but with the way I felt about it. I thought I made it clear that I wanted to know how others felt about the gathering. And I thought I made it clear that I wanted input and help into my opinion, so that if I was confused or if I misinterpreted the idea, that I could be set straight.

Despite the flaming idiots who decided that expression of opinions is an immature, childish, and 'ridiculous' notion, I have been straightened out, and I am not uncomfortable with the idea at this point. If the girls want to have a night out for tickle torture, whatever. I still feel hurt that the men have to be left out by virtue of the fact that we have dicks, but that's just the way things are. There are more important things in life to worry about.

Again, thanks to all who at least took the time to try to see things from multiple points of view.
 
ViperGTS said:
I have no problems with the girls getting together. Looking at it from a third person's perspective, I understand that nothing "bad" (define it any way you wish) would happen, and that it's just for fun. But G** DAMN IT that was not the point!! I thought I made my point very clear in saying that I felt uncomfortable with the idea, but that I would NEVER stop my signifigant other from attending such an event should she desire to do so. I thought I made it clear that the problem did not lie witht he gathering itself but with the way I felt about it. I thought I made it clear that I wanted to know how others felt about the gathering. And I thought I made it clear that I wanted input and help into my opinion, so that if I was confused or if I misinterpreted the idea, that I could be set straight.

Despite the flaming idiots who decided that expression of opinions is an immature, childish, and 'ridiculous' notion, I have been straightened out, and I am not uncomfortable with the idea at this point. If the girls want to have a night out for tickle torture, whatever. I still feel hurt that the men have to be left out by virtue of the fact that we have dicks, but that's just the way things are. There are more important things in life to worry about.

Again, thanks to all who at least took the time to try to see things from multiple points of view.


THANK YOU! I have been reading every g**damn post on this thing and I understand his feeling. No one has the right to trash on him...no one, I dont care who you are!

This was just a post on feelings and wanted someones opinion, thats it. This post was in no way ridiculous, childish, or immature. He took this post in a very mature way, and those of you who decided to just take this to a whole other level are the immature ones.

I have been wanting to reply to this post but just couldnt sum it into words. He did and I thank him and LOVE him. I see hes point and there is nothing wrong with that. Everyone has an opinion and has the right to say it, but no one can just trash someone just for the hell of it, and to get attention....

Thank you I think I am done unless something gets om my last nerve again...
 
: )

no sweat bro,, dont know ya but i got yer back : ),,,our opinions and thought processes are all part of our upbringing and experiances we have while growing up...thats why things get so interesting with everyone feeling differently about any given subject,,im thankfull that even though once in a great while when i do get something wrong i can at least blame it on my parents... : )

the only thing that frustrates me now is that i keep fantasizing about being the " new girl" at the all girl tickle gathering : )

cant sleep : (....
 
Whew... that was a lot of words to jumble through after a VERY long hard night at work! Anyhow, I digress...

I haven't had a problem with Viper's post... I was a little miffed at first but then I read it a couple more times... he is cool with me. Of course I adored him and Irish from the start when I met them at NEST!

Okay, I will say for the umpteenth time, my intention in holding this gathering has nothing to do with excluding guys. One of my favorite realizations at NEST was the fact that I, for the first time in a LONG time was able to truly be myself. When I'm hanging out with girls I know from my "vanilla" life, I have a good time but I still feel like part of me isn't being truthful. There is a part I have to hide. By organizing FFOT I am going to be able to experience myself and also share with others who may not have been able to feel it before, that wonderfulness of just being ourselves. We get to do all of the fun cheesy "girls night out" stuff that guys honestly DO NOT enjoy and we get to be open about a part of us that we often have to keep hidden. And the guys will benefit from this too... these ladies who have always been a little leery of what a typical gathering is will already know someone who is going to be there. I know friends I have met at NEST and such, I miss. I can't wait to see them again... I'll go to more gatherings for the opportunity to see such wonderful people again! That equals more ladies at gatherings in theory.

And really... am I doing any harm here by holding this? I'm not going to be "corrupting" anyone's girlfriend into an "alternate lifestyle"... nothing of the sort! I'm not a lesbian... not even close. I do get a little turned on when tickling/being tickled by a woman. But I don't see any harm in that, I don't think I'm alone and NO ONE should feel threatened by it.

I don't take much of this personally, those who have a problem with this gathering don't know me well enough... The only true problem I have is people who resist being open minded and people who try to start fights and cause animosity within the group. I hope that maybe a few out there who are against this rethink some of their thinking. I realize that this wish is a long shot...

Gosh, I'm sure I have more than I would like to say... my head is pretty cluttered though after a tough day in the office.

THanks for listening (reading, whatever) and thank you so much to those who support me. I really appreciate it and couldn't do it without you.
 
Viper,tickle kitten,Ann,and irishgirl,I didn't say anything to offend you guys did I?I'm so sorry if I did I truly am.I wish I had a girlfriend to get to know other people with,but alas I'm not good looking.I really hope I didn't offend you guys,since I really like all of you.
 
Sigh *Shaking my head*. I can't speak for everyone else but I never had a problem with Viper's post. I agree that he has a right to post how he feels. My problem is how out of hand this whole thing has become. People saw a part of it that upset them and didnt take the time (or ignored) the whole post. Its too bad that Kitten has to go through so much and explain herself time and time again. I think its time to stop explaining and get on with things. Stop the friggin bickering. Viper, I understand that you meant no harm and that what ended up happening was not what you wanted. I think you should start an all men's thread and see what happens lol (just kidding). Ok I am done :rant:
 
okay, back on topic

I wouldn't mind a all female gathering...i just want pictures! 😛

and my I add this is a really long topic, i skipped alot of it...alot of arguing..but why were you guys putting "g**" shouldn't you have taken out part of the word that followed it..God is not a bad word...it's what you put after it that is.
 
mtTicklemonster said:
okay, back on topic

I wouldn't mind a all female gathering...i just want pictures! 😛

and my I add this is a really long topic, i skipped alot of it...alot of arguing..but why were you guys putting "g**" shouldn't you have taken out part of the word that followed it..God is not a bad word...it's what you put after it that is.


I wasn't really focused on my spelling when I was typing that post, lol. sorry.
 
AquaFeline said:
Oh come on, who usually buys the lingerie? 😉

ROFL! Yeah, no kiddin'...

To IrishGirl - y'got a good one, darlin'. The man's actually avoided what many in this thread couldn't - a pissin' contest with no point.

Viper - Those that can't dig what makes you uncomfortable are like me - wired to easily handle the divide between sexuality and tickling. I know some WICKED smart folks in our community that DON'T dig that the way I do. They're wired differently than I. Heck, anyone reading THIS forum should dig being wired different, y'know? That it makes you uncomfortable COULD be due to perception of exclusion or even to a very reasonable jealousy (your lover heading to something you see as sexual ain't easy for many). That your woman's got your back means it's all good, ultimately. Was a good thread question. Sorry t'see it got so mean in points.

Opinions abound, clearly. You now dig where it's all over the map, and people take hard sides on this in some cases. You two are fortunate. If she can dig your question, and you can dig her response, you're farther ahead than most of the couples on the planet. Couples counselling is FULL of folks that can't hear their partner or see their perspective.

Do take comfort in the fact that few gatherings worthy of the name EVER get anything close to sexual content. Gatherings are arousing to US like slow dances are to vanilla folks. When we started these it was to gather folks of like interest. That public play was possible for many was a major bonus, but just MEETING others into this was the main point. Proof, tangible proof, that we exist. Heck, man, I *could* be a 'bot, otherwise, y'know? These events have many qualities, but the main point was always to meet the community.

Props to you for not washing your hands of the thread, man.

To ticklkitten - gathering folks does no harm. It's NOT the only event that ever had women exclusively, and good on ya for gettin' 'em together. Helps the community at large when y'all know you can gather without issue, and have comfort in bein' around those in this interest. Can only benefit.

dvnc
 
Gothmog said:
Viper,tickle kitten,Ann,and irishgirl,I didn't say anything to offend you guys did I?I'm so sorry if I did I truly am.I wish I had a girlfriend to get to know other people with,but alas I'm not good looking.I really hope I didn't offend you guys,since I really like all of you.

😉 Nah. You're cool, goth. You're one of the few who actually tried to see everyone's POV. That's a good thing. Don't sweat it, bro.

Ann
 
Goth does bring up a very interesting point. I've always had a big problem with shyness and insecurity around women, in part because of my fetish. I can strike up a casual conversation, no problem. It's getting to the next level with someone I like that's always a problem for me. When you get rejected a lot, it makes it progressively harder to want to try again.

So this year I went to NEST, trying to strip away one layer of that wall of insecurity I've built around myself. I was pretty much meeting everyone there for the first time. I'm also pretty anal about 'rules'. So I still spent a lot of time holding up the walls. But I believe next year will be much better 'cause I'll go into it knowing more people. (I will definitely try and stay for the duration next year)

I should add here, I wasn't expecting to hook up with anyone, though I've heard that there have been some success stories. But I could, at least, work on my 'people skills'. Sometimes, ya just gotta say: "What the f**k?"

I'm coming around to asking a question here, about how we perceive ourselves vs. how others perceive us. Are shy people often percieved, perhaps mistakenly, as 'creepy' and 'leering' by the opposite sex? Does that evaluation depend on our outward physical appearance?

As I was writing this, 'Eleanor Rigby' popped into my head. It's so sad and so unnecessary really...
 
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Possibly my last two cents

I thought I was done with this thread but it's early here in California and that's when my brain is awake the most so Im letting go with two more cents. First off...Viper? When I read your first post the first thing, and the thing that made me respond in the first place, I thought was "Wow! This is a real man. He is secure enough about himself and his relationship to post his feelings." That impressed me alot. NOW before anyone takes my "thoughts" personally. Im not pointing fingers at ANYONE. In fact, no one came to my mind. This was simply my first thought. It takes alot of maturity and security, in my opinion, to post personal feelings to people who are, for the most part, strangers. That's what makes this community special. I have never met anyone in the TMF face-to-face but I know that at anytime I could PM any one of you with an issue Im having and get advice without being judged. Secondly....Ticklekitten..I didnt know anything about the proposed FFOT until reading Viper's post but when I realized what the thread was about I was excited in a sense. As a woman who hasnt attended a gathering yet, I viewed this as a perfect opportunity to "let my hair down" if you will. Im not a shy person but I am basically a newbie in the tickling world and, if I were able to attend, I felt this would be a perfect opportunity to meet other women of the TMF, relax, make wonderful "girlfriends" and get a preview of what happens at gatherings. I have met a few men here on the TMF and talked to them in PM and I have never talked to a more respectful class of men. I would not hesitate to attend a gathering where any of these men were present but I felt a all female gathering would just be a nice way, for me, to ease into the whole gathering prospect. SO I applaud Viper for being so open and honest, Irishgirl for obviously being a understanding partner to him and to Ticklekitten for coming up with an idea that would give me an opportunity to make new, wonderful friends and to be more comfortable when I get the chance to attend an all out gathering. That's just me!

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